35 mip

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Steve Beaver 


> On Dec 9, 2016, at 15:33, Ward, Mike S <mw...@ssfcu.org> wrote:
> 
> 35 MIP or 35 MSU?
> 
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 9:56 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Why Can't You Buy z Mainframe Services from Amazon Cloud 
> Services?
> 
> 
> If you look at equipment resellers, you can get a 35 MIP z10 for next to 
> nothing.  You still need storage and communications and software like CICS 
> and power
> 
> 
> Steve Beaver
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Bigendian Smalls" <mainfr...@bigendiansmalls.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 10:33am
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Why Can't You Buy z Mainframe Services from Amazon Cloud 
> Services?
> 
> 
> 
> Timothy - 
> 
> I did read all the links on your page - it’s what prompted the rant. And, 
> likewise, if you read my post in its entirety, you know that 15 days of a 
> “test-drive of development-based tools on Z” does positively and unquivocally 
> zero to address the items I enumerated. No way that testdrive (and its anemic 
> 15 day limit) would provide an intelligent person an even remotely fighting 
> chance of learning anything useful about the platform with which to make a 
> decision on schooling, trade or vocation. Is there value in the link you 
> provided? Sure. Does it address anything I said. Nope.
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Chad
> 
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2016, at 12:40 AM, Timothy Sipples <sipp...@sg.ibm.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Bigendian Smalls wrote:
>>> TL;DR - there needs to be a free version of z/os & it’s siblings 
>>> sooner
>> than
>>> later, to not do this is to potentially starve the platoform out of
>> existence
>>> as we know it.
>> 
>> Didn't anybody read the page that I linked to? There is, already. For 
>> up to
>> 15 days.
>> 
>> Charles Mills wrote:
>>> What??? THIS is IBM's answer???
>> 
>> As a reminder, I do not speak for IBM. If you'd like *IBM's* answer, 
>> ask IBM through an official channel. *My* answer, writing only for 
>> himself, is to state a plain fact: free z/OS access is available, 
>> today, from IBM, for up to 15 days. I believe in facts. Let's at least 
>> start with them. IBM probably will if you're going to make an argument with 
>> IBM.
>> 
>> Scott Chapman wrote:
>>> I don't see anything there that says one can do real

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