Well yes. However, and in my experience, it is easy to chase "Mother" who does actually respond. We have reported problems to many other vendors where there is never a response. With well over 52 years of experience in IT, 50 with the mainframe, starting with prerelease PCP 1 on a 360/40, I doubt that I have missed many new release failures nor the ones on all of the other different platforms that we run here. Not wishing to antagonize the Open Source community as there are many good and stable products out there, some of which we use on a daily basis, I stand by my comment based on our many and varied experiences here.
John T. Abell Tel: 800-295-7608 Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax: 800-295-7609 International: 1-416-593-5579 International Software Products www.ispinfo.com This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Clark Morris Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 4:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Open Source vs. propiietary operating systems breaking things. was Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update. [Default] On 18 Jan 2017 12:26:59 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com (John Abell) wrote: >Well that is the ever present risk of Open Source. Whatever this kernel change is, it screwed up other things in our environment as well. As someone who suffered through the PE chains of DFP and who remembers Jamie Yates of IBM getting up and telling a SHARE session that the early general availability users of DF/EF catalogs were placing Sev 1 calls before they had a problem because by the time they got a call back, they would have one, the risk is not unique to Open Source. There is a reason many shop do not and did not go to the latest release or maintenance level. Clark Morris > >We have noted that there is a Kernel update from 6.7 to 6.8. We are not going down that road until there is some assurance that the sentinel software and some other things that we use won't fail with this update as well. > >Cheers, >John T. Abell >Tel: 800-295-7608 Option 4 >President >International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 >E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com >Fax: 800-295-7609 > >International: 1-416-593-5579 > > >International Software Products >www.ispinfo.com > >This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the >sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, >distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] >On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 1:30 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update. > >John. >Our co figuration is much like yours on a single server. It take about 30 minutes to install centos and zpdt. The mainframe is on different disks so nothing was lost. >My concern is the ability of the vendor to fix the problem. It is unblievable that it takes more than a month so far. > >ITschak > >?????? 18 ???? 2017 17:21,? "John Abell" < john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com> ???: > >If you cannot back out the recent updates that caused you to end up >with this problem, re-install the version RHEL that last worked. This >assumes that you have used the practice of making sure that none of you >zPDT stuff is in distribution directories. We have a much more complex >zPDT environment than most but my main tech had the environment back up >in about >8 hours without loss of anything in zPDT, z/VM, multiple z/OS Guests and zLinux guests. The recovery had to be done on 2 full zPDT systems for reasons outside of this discussion. > >John T. Abell >Tel: 800-295-7608 Option 4 >President >International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 >E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com >Fax: 800-295-7609 > >International: 1-416-593-5579 > > >International Software Products >www.ispinfo.com > >This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, retention, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive on behalf of the named recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Also,email is susceptible to data corruption, interception, tampering, unauthorized amendment and viruses. We only send and receive emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] >On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 3:36 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: ZPDT usb issue after lunux update. > >Elardus, > >zPDT is a mainframe emulation product from IBM that we use. the driving system is an enterprise Linux flavor. Linux clients that updated the version for some reason, can't access the license server. versions involved are rhel 7.X, but I think suse as well. we use a memory stick to hold the license. > >And, yes, this is a hit. > >ITschak > >On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht < elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote: > >> Itschak Mugzach wrote: >> >> >Doea any of the zPDT users hited by the linux update caused lose of >> license server. >> >> 'hited'? Sorry, could you please be very kind to explain? >> >> >> >I can't get an estimate when it will be fixed. The problem is know >> >dor >> almost a month. We was hited last friday. >> >> What Linux system and at what version are you referring? Oh, on what >> hardware and operating system (z/VM for example) are your Linux >> system(s) working? >> >> Do you have any problem reference number or any source about the >> 'known problem'? >> >> No offense meant, but your subject is not clear for me: 'ZPDT usb >> issue after lunux update.' >> >> While I'm not currently working with any Linux system/application, >> I'm just asking probing questions to enable others to help you. >> >> Groete / Greetings >> Elardus Engelbrecht >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO >> IBM-MAIN >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
