Just check with our DB2 SYSPROG, same here. 

Carmen 


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From: "Mike Schwab" <mike.a.sch...@gmail.com> 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 10:18:22 PM 
Subject: Re: Paging subsystems in the era of bigass memory 

Here is an IBM presentation on how to tune z/OS and DB2 memory, 
including some parameters to set. 
http://www.mdug.org/Presentations/Large%20Memory%20DB2%20Perf%20MDUG.pdf 

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Art Gutowski <arthur.gutow...@gm.com> wrote: 
> Did someone on this thread say DB2?? 
> 
> We have been experiencing similar AUX storage creep on our DB2 systems, 
> particularly during LARGE reorgs (more of a gallop than a creep). Our DB2 
> guys did some research, opened an ETR with IBM, and found this relic: 
> 
> Q: 
> "[Why was] set realstorage_management to OFF when that zPARM was introduced 
> in DB2 version 10? 
> 
> "Details 
> "IBM z/OS implemented a Storage Management Design change after DB2 v10 was 
> released. 
> "• Before the design change, DB2 used KEEPREAL(NO), virtual storage pages 
> were really (physically) freed, high CPU cost if YES 
> DISCARDDATA KEEPREAL(NO), RSM has to get LPAR level serialization to manage 
> those pages that are being freed immediately. That added to CPU usage and 
> also caused some CPU spin at the LPAR level to get that serialization -- 
> excerpt from PTF 
> 
> "To get around/minimize the impact of the original design shortcomings that 
> was introduced by IBM RSM z/OS, setting zPARM realstorage_management to OFF, 
> would probably have been prudent on most LPARs. HP/EDS tried to address this 
> new issue IBM created. 
> 
> "IBM create two PTFs and changed the way DB2 and RSM manages the page frames. 
> 
> "• After a design change (now) DB2 uses KEEPREAL(YES), storage is only 
> virtually freed 
> "If DB2 doesn't tell RSM that it doesn't need a frame, then the frame will 
> remain backed in real storage in some form. That causes the growth of real 
> storage and paging and everything that goes with using up REAL storage. 
> KEEPREAL(YES) allows DB2 to tell RSM that z/OS can steal the page if it needs 
> it, but DB2 retains ownership of the page, and it remains backed with real 
> storage. If z/OS needs the page, it can steal it -- excerpt from PTF 
> 
> "V10 APAR PM88804 APAR PM86862 and PM99575" 
> 
> So...perhaps check your DSNZPARM and make sure it's coded appropriately for 
> more modern times. FYI, we are z/OS 2.2 and DB2 11.1, NFM. We are in the 
> process of rolling out REALSTORAGE_MANAGEMENT=AUTO (the current IBM 
> recommended setting) across our enterprise. 
> 
> HTH, 
> Art Gutowski (with assist from Doug Drain, Steve Laufer and IBM) 
> General Motors, LLC 
> 
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