I've always said that if you think you need someone in the office so you can 
make sure they are working - then you hired the wrong person.   Bad employees 
will goof off whether they are in the office or at home.   And I get a LOT more 
done from home than I ever do in the office because there are no distractions 
at home like at the office.  

And the old "water cooler" argument about learning a lot from discussions in 
the office has a little merit, but not much.  Most of the times these 
discussions quickly wonder off into personal discussions.  

Todd Burrell | Sr. Mainframe Systems Administrator 

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Subject: Re: Looks like lots of folks in marketing said thanks but no thanks

1. Purely imaginary.  Besides being too random to be useful, those "meetings" 
are about family, dogs, and favourite comedies.  Business interaction is often 
better facilitated with electronic communication (see your #3).
2. Purely imaginary.  You cannot "see" much of anything.  A manager's job is to 
get results, not to baby-sit (monitor) their team.  If the manager hires people 
who need to be constantly supervised, well then, that's on the manager.
3. Agreed.  Every office I've worked in was apparently designed to prevent me 
from concentrating on anything.  I'm far, far more productive in my quiet, 
distraction-free home office.

I also liked going to the office (mostly), and seeing everyone.  But I was able 
to actually work maybe 50% of the time there.

sas


On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:57 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka < 
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> wrote:

> Well, it is not my company, so let's leave the decision to the owners 
> and managers they hired.
>
> However if it was my company I would demand to be present in the office.
> Some well justified exceptions apply, but mostly temporarily, and 
> everytime final decision would belong to managers, not employees.
>
> Reasons?
> 1. Meetings at the coffee point (and other places) is very big 
> opportunity to exchange ideas, thoughts, opinions.
> 2. It is much easier to see and control how the emploee spends a time 
> - is he really busy as declared? No timesheet replace it.
> 3. Some people do work more effectively when they have no external 
> "disturbants" (a dog, neighbour, postman, favourite comedy on TV...)
>
> BTW: most of my co-workers claim they absolutely prefer to work in the 
> office, with the team.
> BTW2: multi-site office is still better than home working, We do have 
> good video-chat systems for in conference rooms, except personal a/v 
> equipment in every PC.
>
> My 0,02€
>
> --
> R.Skorupka
> Lodz, Poland
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