We are not on z13s yet, but we've been using the Javascript version for a few months now on EC12s, and it's generally okay - we do get the NIP messages okay, recently we had to reply to some when we mucked up some page datasets.
I agree it blips sometimes, but I've put that down to the browser (IE) rather than IBM's code - though I could be wrong :-) I always use it maximised on a 4:3 display (no wide screen for me yet..). I dislike the HTML it generates, with extra spacing around the lines, meaning fewer display lines on screen at any one time, and I also want more scroll back - somewhere in the region of 5k lines would be good, especially for IPLs. We discovered a bug in it too - we have some read-only user Ids, meaning you can watch the console but not respond, as the command line and button are greyed out. That's fine, but after a shutdown, reset and IPL, those fields are enabled... -- Andy Styles Original Message From: Barbara Nitz Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2017 07:43 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- >I'm trying to use the new Java-less Operating System Messages console on >the HMC. My version is Blippy McBlipperson, which makes it extremely >difficult to use, because you can't watch it. As new messages are sent >to the console, the display collapses and expands at least 10x/sec. >Anybody else's HMC console behave this way? If so, what was IBM >thinking? We had to submit RFE's to get them to remove Java, do we have >to submit more requirements to make it usable? Same here; ever since we got the z13, it is essentially impossible to see NIP messages because the console doesn't scroll anymore. The first screen fills and then just blips, no new messages, and no scrollbar. When I reported it, it was implied that this was due to my 'failure' to use the tree-style interface. I have resorted to using the 3270 console. Which has the disadvantage that you cannot scroll back. But at least I see the NIP messages. After a while (and after closing the OSM screen and reopening it), the OSM screen actually gets a scroll bar. Never mind that the buffer is so small that the first messages have already gone. IBM was unable to tell me how to increase that buffer size. I am glad that I am not the only one who sees this. Barbara ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc. Registered Office: Barnett Way, Gloucester GL4 3RL. Registered in England and Wales 2299428. Telephone: 0345 603 1637 Lloyds Bank plc, Bank of Scotland plc are authorised by the Prudential Regulation Authority and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority and Prudential Regulation Authority. Cheltenham & Gloucester plc is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Halifax is a division of Bank of Scotland plc. Cheltenham & Gloucester Savings is a division of Lloyds Bank plc. HBOS plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC218813. This e-mail (including any attachments) is private and confidential and may contain privileged material. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete it (including any attachments) immediately. You must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it or any attachments. Telephone calls may be monitored or recorded. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN