Cool. I learned something today. Maybe JOBCLASS(xxx) is a better place that 
ESTBYTE?

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 8:13 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Does the JES2 ESTBYTE parm limit STC or just batch output?

I reran the job I used earlier, this time with TIME=NOLIMIT. Still got S722. 
This is with system wide ESTLINE parm, not a jobclass value.  

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Allan Staller
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 6:37 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: Does the JES2 ESTBYTE parm limit STC or just batch 
output?

Aside from the ESTBYTE change, ensure the applicable JES2  JOBCLASS definitions 
specifications do not specify TIME=1440.
If TIME=1440 is specified at any point, I believe the whole thing will fail.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 11:04 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Does the JES2 ESTBYTE parm limit STC or just batch output?

We have experienced a number of spool-full conditions in the recent past, 
always caused by runaway batch jobs that produce tens of millions of lines of 
garbage until the entire MAS grinds to a halt. So we're experimenting with 
JES2-defined limits. In researching the options, we came across the doc below. 
We're focused on batch, but this passage may be telling. If only we could 
understand it. May you be granted more insight that us. 

"Considerations for started tasks and TSO LOGONs

"Output limits for TSO/E transmits can be set by TSO/E using the  TSO/E OUTLIM= 
parameter. JES2 also sets a limit internally. When  SYSOUT is transmitted in 
the foreground for started tasks and TSO/E  LOGONs, the member uses the lower 
of these two limits. JES2 sets the  following output limits for started tasks 
and TSO LOGONs:

"999,999 for lines, cards, and pages
2,147,483 (in 1000s of bytes) for spool utilization.
An installation can change the limits for started tasks or TSO  LOGONs by using 
JES2 Exit 20 to change the limit for each particular  started task or TSO 
LOGONs The limit for TSO/E transmits which are  specified thorough the OUTLIM 
parameter, should not be greater than  the limit JES2 sets for punches or a 
X'722' abend will occur.
 See z/OS TSO/E Customization for information about limiting the  TSO/E 
TRANSMIT  command."

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW
robin...@sce.com


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:09 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: Does the JES2 ESTBYTE parm limit STC or just batch 
output?

The EST Byte, Line, Page can be dynamically changed. 

The simplest way to avoid an IPL (and JES2 just stops when spool is full - but 
will respond to commands like PURGE)

Is to cycle the STC, add another spool volume, or see what is really going on.

If the STC is filling up spool, it needs to be determined why.  We have 
automated the HASP050 / HASP375 message to send emails and alerts when some of 
the JES2 functions are impacted (BERT, SPOOL, JNUM, etc.)

My understanding is the IEFUSO exit can cancel an STC if it exceeds its limits. 
 You can code the STCCLASS statement in JES2 and allow the IEFUSO to do its job.

You can also use automation tools to monitor for HASP375, HASP050 or other

You can use products like z/OSEM or EASYEXIT (DTS Software) to control your 
jobs names (STC, TSU, or JOB) for determining final action.

Lizette



> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of George Henke
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 1:59 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Does the JES2 ESTBYTE parm limit STC or just batch output?
> 
> Just averted a near disaster, a mid-day IPL of 4 LPARs, with a STC 
> filling up the spool with 10B bytes of data because the ESTBYTE limit 
> was not turned on for termination, OPT=1.
> 
> But would it have done anything anyway for a STC or does it just apply 
> to batch and APPC.
> 
> The manual is silently ambiguous on this.
> 
> If anyone has had success limiting STC output so, please let me know, 
> else it will probably be JES2 Exit 20.
> 
> --
> George Henke
> (C) 845 401 5614

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