W dniu 2017-08-23 o 12:52, Peter Hunkeler pisze:
A little bit of explanations.
I asked the question, because I found discrepancy in the permissions.
Who, how, when, and why  changed the permissions - I don't know, that's
another story. However the system seemed to work properly with r-x on
/bin/sh. The problem occured during installation of some IBM product,
part of IDz (former RDz - Rational Developer for System z). Change to
r-t fixed the problem.


Not sure what the problem was that you encountered. However, it seems to me 
that some part of your installation had not been done properly or completely. 
The shell is installed into LPA *and* into the /bin path of your version root 
file system. without the sticky bit, the version from the /bin directory is 
always used. The LPA version is not relevant. With the sticky bit, the LPA 
version is always used, and the version  in /bin is not relevant. Except when 
the shell is not found in LPA, then the loader goes back and loads it from the 
/bin directory.


I cannot say how a version discrepancy could cause troubles, but the same issue 
might exist with other sticky bit UNIX binaries, and the corresponding load 
module.


As a side note: Other permission r-x is exactly the same as r-t from a 
permission point of view. The lower case t means x permission and sticky bit is 
set. Its kind of as overpunching on punch cards. The sticky bit is show in the 
same position as the execute permission. Sticky and no execute permission is 
shown as T, sticky and execute permission is shown as t. No sticky bit but 
execute permission is shown as x.


Similarly, the Set-UID-bit and Set-Gid-bit are "overpunched" over the x 
position in the Owner, and Groups parts, resp. Shown as S or s, depending on whether 
execute permission is also present or not.




Peter,
1. The problem with IDz was real and solved by change the permissions. The system originally was created properly, including permissions to /bin/sh - that's I'm sure, because I have an access to the "source image" of cloned system having the problem.

2. Do not take "permissions" word so literally. We're aware the "t" is just kind of brevity, an equivalent of "x + sticky". It's better visible in octal form, but 4-digit. From the other hand octal "5" is not intuitive as "r-x".


Regards
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland




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