On 19/10/2017 9:10 PM, John McKown wrote:
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:47 AM, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Kirk!
Using your _BPX_SHAREAS=MUST tip with __spawnp2() I was able to knock up
something similar to COZBATCH. While not anyway near as comprehensive it
does allow us to ship a batch job utility that can install a web server
from a PDS pax member using a script inspired by your Tomcat installation
comments. It was surprisingly easy using pipes and select() as you
suggested. It's mind boggling why the IBM utilities are so poor.
If you're talking about BPXBATCH in the "so poor" comment, I'd guess that
it was determined to be needed "late in the game". So something was written
quickly to get some basic functionality going. It then became enshrined in
the temple of backward compatibility. And now, as is often asked, what do
we want IBM to stop doing in order to "fix" BPXBATCH to "run reasonably"?
IMO, what IBM needs to do is license COZBATCH from Dovetailed Technologies
and distribute it with z/OS. There is precedent for this because JZOS
(Java) was original a Dovetailed Technologies product.
Why don't IBM just provide a BPXSHELL program that does the right thing?
It's a piece of cake to implement and AOPBATCH already does it, which is
an IBM product. I use COZBATCH but we can't ship it to customers so
that's why I wrote my own. I can't talk for Kirk and Steve but I don't
think they want to sell their Co:Z toolkit to IBM when they have plenty
of customers paying for support.
On 18/10/2017 10:10 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
Yes, it uses getpwuid() to get your default shell.
But you can run any program with whatever options instead by using PARM=
see: https://dovetail.com/docs/cozbatch/ref.html
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 10:32 PM, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 18/10/2017 6:10 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
Yes, it works with bash, but the limitation with bash is that commands
are
never local-spawned. Therefore, you can't use DDs.
Yes, and that's an issue for me. I want to use bash in my shell but
/bin/sh in COZBATCH so I can use DDnames. Are you getting the login shell
using getpwuid()?
Is there anyway to tell COZBATCH not to use the login shell? I can't see
anything in the reference so I suspect not.
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com
On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 3:06 AM, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com>
wrote:
You probably already know this but COZBATCH works just fine with bash. I
changed my default shell to bash and it works a treat.
CoZBatch[N]: Copyright (C) 2005-2013 Dovetailed Technologies LLC. All
rights reserved.
CoZBatch[N]: version 3.1.0 2015-05-01
CoZBatch[I]: executing progname=login-shell="-/usr/local/bin/bash"
On 16/10/2017 10:46 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
PS> CozBatch is 10 years old this year. Its free to download and use
under our Community License.
That's a good excuse for a party! :)
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:19 AM, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 15/10/2017 10:57 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
I guess COZBATCH has left out /bin/login, and exec()s to the shell to
avoid the above restrictions.
That's almost right, but COZBATCH uses spawn. By default it will
run
the
user's shell as a "login" shell. The tricky part is that /bin/sh
has
a
sticky bit on, so to get a local spawn you have to use one of the
workarounds documented in BPX1SPN
What workaround?
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