edgould1...@comcast.net (Edward Gould) writes: > Way back in the 1980’s we had just gotten in a 4331 for testing. I was > given a list of software to order and DL/1 was there but for DOS/VSE. > Was it ever available on MVS? > My memory is starting to ooze here, but wasn’t there a DB for VM as well was > it QBE(???).
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#27 Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017j.html#28 Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS all the original sql/relational was done on vm/145 and then System/R technology transfer to Endicott for SQL/DS on both DOS/VSE and VM, before transfer to STL & porting to MVS (after EAGLE implodes). some posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr YKT also did QBE (query-by-example) for VM370. Old email about "father of QBE and arch-enemy of System/R" doing QBE presentation at SJR http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#email800310 QBE ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Query_by_Example note predating SQL & QBE were 4th generation languages developed on CP67&VM370 for virtual machine based commercial online offerings. past posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#online Mathematica original did RAMIS and ran on NCSS ... CP67 spin-off from the science center http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subotpic.html#545tech then came FOCUS available on TYMSHARE (later vm370-based online commercial system) ... and NCSS did NOMAD (as their own proprietary) some online refs http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/text/Oral_History/RAMIS_and_NOMAD/RAMIS_and_NOMAD.National_CSS.oral_history.2005.102658182.pdf http://www.decosta.com/Nomad/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOCUS FOCUS is a computer programming language and development environment. It is a language used to build database queries, and is regarded as a fourth-generation programming language (4GL). Produced by Information Builders Inc., it was originally developed for data handling and analysis on the IBM mainframe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomad_software Martin provided a "dozen pages of COBOL, and then just a page or two of Mark IV, from Informatics." Rawlings offered the following single statement, performing a set-at-a-time operation, to show how trivial this problem was with Nomad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramis_software RAMIS was initially developed in the mid 1960s by the company MATHEMATICA on a consulting contract for a marketing study by a team headed by Gerald Cohen and subsequently further developed and marketed as a general purpose data management and analysis tool. In the late 1960s Cohen fell out with the management of MATHEMATICA and left to form his own company. Soon thereafter his new company released a new product called FOCUS which was very similar to RAMIS - even, it is rumored, having some of the same bugs. ... snip ... posts mentioning QBE: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#44 SQL wildcard origins? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002o.html#70 Pismronunciation http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#11 Dreaming About Redesigning SQL http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#18 Dreaming About Redesigning SQL http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#19 Dreaming About Redesigning SQL http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005.html#25 Network databases http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007s.html#21 Ellison Looks Back As Oracle Turns 30 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#82 What would be a truly relational operating system ? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#55 Maybe off topic http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011d.html#60 Maybe off topic http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#1 Deja Cloud? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#60 Has anyone successfully migrated off mainframes? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#37 PDP-10 byte instructions, was What Makes an Architecture Bizarre? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017c.html#85 Great mainframe history(?) other posts mentioning RAMIS, NOMAD, &/or FOCUS http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#15 CA-RAMIS http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#17 CA-RAMIS http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003n.html#15 Dreaming About Redesigning SQL http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#37 PDP-1 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#49 Seeking info on HP FOCUS (HP 9000 Series 500) and IBM ROMP CPUs from early 80's http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#12 Special characters in passwords was Re: RACF - Password rules http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#37 Quote from comp.object http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#17 Newbie question on table design http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#40 Gone but not forgotten: 10 operating systems the world left behind http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#54 search engine history, was Happy DEC-10 Day http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#55 Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer (warning: Conley rant) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#58 Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer (warning: Conley rant) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010n.html#21 What non-IBM software products have been most significant to the mainframe's success http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010o.html#26 Global Sourcing with Cloud Computing and Virtualization http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010q.html#63 VMSHARE Archives http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#69 "Best" versus "worst" programming language you've used? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011n.html#39 Beyond Patriot? The Multinational MEADS Air Defense Program http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#43 z/OS's basis for TCP/IP http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012d.html#51 From Who originated the phrase "user-friendly"? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012e.html#84 Time to competency for new software language? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#42 360/20, was 1132 printer history http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#56 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#57 Article for the boss: COBOL will outlive us all http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#63 The cloud is killing traditional hardware and software http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013g.html#16 Old data storage or data base http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013j.html#0 What Makes a Tax System Bizarre? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#62 Google F1 was: Re: MongoDB http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#77 Bloat http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014e.html#34 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#32 Speed of computers--wave equation for the copper atom? (curiosity) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#101 Flat (VSAM or other) files still in use? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#40 How Larry Ellison Became The Fifth Richest Man In The World By Using IBM's Idea http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#27 the legacy of Seymour Cray http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016e.html#107 some computer and online history http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#28 {wtf} Tymshare SuperBasic Source Code -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
