Thanks Mark, that makes sense.  I will refer this to our systems staff.

Peter

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If they're installed with SMP/e, they should be placed in the dataset 
pointed to by DDDEF SIEALNKE


   Entry Type:  PROGRAM
   Entry Name:  JVMLDM60


FMID      HJVA600
RMID      UI14482
DISTLIB   AIEALNKE
SYSLIB    SIEALNKE
           -------- --------

Talk with your systems staff. They might help you find them.

Mark Jacobs
> Farley, Peter x23353 <mailto:peter.far...@broadridge.com>
> November 7, 2017 at 4:19 PM
> Yes those are the ones, but they are not present in that library on 
> our systems. Maybe your kind and generous systems staff made those 
> copies for you? Mine apparently did not.
>
> Peter
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> Are you talking about these?
>
> BROWSE SYS1.SIEALNKE
> Command ===>
> Name Prompt
> _________ JVMLDM60
> _________ JVMLDM61
> _________ JVMLDM66
> _________ JVMLDM67
> _________ JVMLDM70
> _________ JVMLDM71
> _________ JVMLDM76
> _________ JVMLDM77
> _________ JVMLDM80
> _________ JVMLDM86
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> November 7, 2017 at 4:10 PM
> Are you talking about these?
>
> BROWSE            SYS1.SIEALNKE
> Command ===>
>            Name     Prompt
> _________ JVMLDM60
> _________ JVMLDM61
> _________ JVMLDM66
> _________ JVMLDM67
> _________ JVMLDM70
> _________ JVMLDM71
> _________ JVMLDM76
> _________ JVMLDM77
> _________ JVMLDM80
> _________ JVMLDM86
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> Farley, Peter x23353 <mailto:peter.far...@broadridge.com>
> November 7, 2017 at 4:00 PM
> This is a JZOS installation and documentation question. At our 
> installation (z/OS V2.1), versions of the JZOS loader executables 
> (JVMLDMxx) live in these Unix directories:
>
> /usr/lpp/java/Jx.y/mvstools
>
> /usr/lpp/java/Jx.y_64/mvstools
>
> Where "x.y" is the Java version, like 6.0 or 7.0, etc.
>
> As Gil has pointed out several times, you cannot *legally* use a Unix 
> directory in a STEPLIB DD or concatenation (well, anyway it is not 
> documented that you can). And in fact although this may occasionally 
> work with an empty PDS(E) as the first catenand, my experience of 
> trying this with the JZOS loader executables is that it generates an 
> S922 abend (fatal error in initiator, SVC dump taken).
>
> So my installation question is this: Does the normal installation of 
> the JZOS component also include automatic copying of the JVMLDMxx 
> executable(s) into some system-maintained PDSE(s)?
>
> If not, where is it documented how to copy these executable(s) into a 
> PDSE library which can legally be used as a STEPLIB, and that it is 
> the user's responsibility to do this in order to use JZOS?
>
> I have figured out with help from the MVS-OE list (or maybe I had help 
> here, ATM I do not remember) that "/bin/cp -X" is the "right" way to 
> copy those executables into a PDSE, but I would like to see the actual 
> documentation, if any, which references that (or some other) method as 
> a user responsibility.
>
> TIA for any info or RTFM you can provide.
>
> Peter
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