On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Edward Gould <edgould1...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> > On Dec 8, 2017, at 7:42 AM, John McKown <john.archie.mck...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ​I should probably be silent, but "what the hay". Ed seems towards LE the
> > same way that many are towards PDSEs. They were an early adopter, got
> > burned, and forever relegated the idea to the "pile of shit" category.
> ​It
> > reminds me of my mom. She kept saying "never get a color T.V. They are
> junk
> > because the image is so fuzzy.". When I got old enough to afford one, I
> got
> > one. And my mom loved it because they had improved so much since she
> first
> > saw one. It would be like me hating DFSMS because DF/EF was a pile of
> junk
> > which burned my butt clean off. As an aside, I am now writing most of my
> > HLASM to be LE compliant (CEEENTRY) because it makes it easier for me to
> > write RENT,REUS code. And I need it to interoperate with the C run-time,
> > which I (ab)use with great abandon.
>
> John,
>
> When LE works it works, when it doesn’t that  is when you get into the
> nasty parts (as the Brits say).
> *IF* LE was easy to debug then all would be wonderful but it is not.
> Ed
>

​Ah, I think that maybe I understand (and agree). It's like before LE. I
_hated_ trying to debug a simple abend in a COBOL program because the
run-time kept messing up the original abend environment. I would demand a
re-run with NOSPIE,NOSTAE so that I could find the original problem.​


-- 
I have a theory that it's impossible to prove anything, but I can't prove
it.

Maranatha! <><
John McKown

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