0000000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Paul Gilmartin) writes: > I imagine: > > RFE: We want UNIX. > > IBM: Be more specific. > > Both: (After much deliberation) Single UNIX specification. > > And so it went. There's no formal specification of GNU Linux. > > Sigh.
some of the CTSS (IBM 7094) people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compatible_Time-Sharing_System went to the 5th flr to do MULTICS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics others went to the IBM cambridg science center on the 4th flr and did virtual machines, internal network, invented GML (letters taken from last names of 3 inventors), lots of online and performance work https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/CMS folklore is that the belllabs people working on Multics on the 5th flr, return home and do UNIX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multics#Unix In the early 80s, a group from Stanford approached the IBM Palo Alto Science Center about IBM doing a workstation, PASC invites several internal groups for review ... who all claim that they were doing something better (and IBM turns down the offer). The group then starts their own company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems late 80s, there appears to be aggreement between SUN & AT&T to make UNIX exclusive. the other vendors form organization to create an "open" unix work-alike. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Software_Foundation The organization was seen as a response to the collaboration between AT&T and Sun on UNIX System V Release 4, and a fear that other vendors would be locked out of the standardization process. This led Scott McNealy of Sun to quip that "OSF" really stood for "Oppose Sun Forever".[4] The competition between the opposing versions of UNIX systems became known as the UNIX wars. ... snip ... Unix wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX_wars in the 90s, they merge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Software_Foundation#Merger By 1993, it had become clear that the greater threat to UNIX system vendors was not each other as much as the increasing presence of Microsoft in enterprise computing. In May, the Common Open Software Environment (COSE) initiative was announced by the major players in the UNIX world from both the UI and OSF camps: Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Sun, Unix System Laboratories, and the Santa Cruz Operation. As part of this agreement, Sun and AT&T became OSF sponsor members, OSF submitted Motif to the X/Open Consortium for certification and branding and Novell passed control and licensing of the UNIX trademark to the X/Open Consortium. ... snip ... triva ... recent mention of joke about head of POK being major contributor to DEC VMS ... http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017k.html#30 Converting programs to accommodate 8-character userids and prefixes one of the DEC executives at OSF meetings had previously worked in the (Burlington Mall) vm370/cms development group. Not all of AT&T was UNIX. In 1975, I had moved a lot of enhancments from CP67 to VM370 ... some old email http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#email731212 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750102 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006w.html#email750430 one of my hobbies was providing & supporting enhanced operating systems for internal datacenters. However, some deal was cut with AT&T Longlines to get a copy (this was version w/o multiprocessor support). AT&T Longlines had all the source and over the years, continued to move it to more current IBM mainframes. Finally in the 80s, the IBM AT&T national account rep tracks me down about helping longlines move to current version (with multiprocessor). This was in 3081 period which was announced as multiprocessor only and clone vendors were coming out with faster single processors. Eventually IBM did come out with 3083 (3081 with processor removed) ... mostly for the ACP/TPF market (ACP/TPF didn't have multiprocessor support, concern that the ACP/TPF customers would all move to non-IBM clone processors). IBM CSC, 545 tech sq posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech SMP posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN