john.archie.mck...@gmail.com (John McKown) writes: > Not as I was told. U.S. Government said, basically, you can only bid a > POSIX compliant (and branded?) system for any I.T. purchase. To keep their > business, IBM grafted OpenEdition (original name) onto MVS. As time goes > on, it does get a bit better.
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017k.html#33 Bad History it wasn't just FEDs POSIX compliance. had several conversations with the disk division (GPD morphs into adstar, during the period that IBM was being reorged into "baby blues" in preparation for breaking up the company) executive that initially had posix support grafted onto MVS. late 80s, senior disk engineer got talk scheduled at the internal annual worldwide communication group conference supposedly on 3174 performance ... but opened the talk with statement that the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division. The issue was that communication group had corporate strategic responsibility (stanglehold) for everything that crossed the datacenter walls, they were fiercely fighting off distributed computing and client/server trying to preserve their dumb terminal paradigm (and install base). The disk division was seeing data fleeing datacenters to more distributed computing friendly platform with drop in disk sales. They came up with a number of solutions ... which were constantly vetoed by the communication group. "terminal emulation" (also numerous mentions of above account) posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal Since openedition was purely MVS software ... the communication group didn't have any justification for veto'ing it. The other thing that GPD could get away with, was investing in non-IBM startups that were doing distributed computing that would involve IBM disks (communication group could only veto IBM products that involved something that physical crosses the datacenter walls). Some number of these investments the executive would ask if we could stop by and lend any support that we could. adstar ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADSTAR 28DEC1992 13 "baby blues" time article, gone behind pay wall, but part of it avail at wayback machine. http://web.archive.org/web/20101120231857/http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,977353,00.html more adstar april 1993 http://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/24/business/company-news-ibm-gives-adstar-storage-unit-more-autonomy.html and more May 1993: One of the biggest dominoes from the breakup of IBM is about to fall on the West Coast, where AdStar is preparing to launch a search for a global age http://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/adstar-set-launch-global-review-bby-michael-mccarthbbr-clearnonebr-clearnonenew-yor/ As recently as two years ago, AdStar sold only to and through IBM, but in 1992 it generated nearly $500 million in revenues via sales to other companies. During 1993, AdStar officials expect this figure to grow by roughly 70% to $850 million. ... snip ... past posts getting to play disk engineer in bldgs 14&15 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk I had also done CMSBACK late 1970s for internal datacenters. after some number of internal releases ... it is modified to include backup for distributed systems and released to customers as Workstation Data Save Facility ... which is then morphs into ADMS (ADSTAR Distributed Storage Manager) ... and is rebranded as TSM (when adstar is unloaded). some old CMSBACK email http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#cmsback cmsback, WDSF, ADSM, TSM ref (cmsback originally done a decade earlier than date mentioned here) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Tivoli_Storage_Manager other trivia: after having left IBM ... we get a call from the bowels of Armonk asking if we could help with the breakup. Business units were using MOUs to leverage supplier contracts in other divisions. With breakup, these would be different companies and the MOUs would have to be turned into their own contracts. We were to help inventory and catalog the MOUs ... however a new CEO was brought in and the breakup was (mostly reversed (for a time). -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
