I agree that it is not advisable without coding HPRSESLM=DISABLED.


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Subject: Re: VTAM communication z/OS 2.2 and z/OS 1.4

Tony,

Based upon the note in the 1.10 migration, it would seem to indicate that using 
z/OS 2.2 EE to communicate with a z/OS 1.4 system would be inadvisable?  Or 
just inadvisable without the ATCSTRxx HPRSESLM=DISABLED?

Rob Schramm

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 3:16 PM Cieri, Anthony <aci...@seic.com> wrote:

>
>         I did some more digging and it appears that the HPRSESLM VTAM 
> start option that I referred to earlier was introduced in z/OS V1.10. 
> We are a service Bureau shop and I recall having some issues when we 
> upgraded from z/OS V1.9 to V1.11. Those scars are what lead to my 
> first reply!!!  I also found an old discussion  in the archives at:
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/6QggnT04
> hlw
>
>         This discussion points to other document and tech notes for 
> back ground information. To avoid this particular issue, code 
> HPRSESLM=DISABLED in the ATCSTRxx member for the z/OS V2.2 VTAM.
>
>
>         HTH
>         Tony
>
>
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> Subject: Re: VTAM communication z/OS 2.2 and z/OS 1.4
>
> Tim,
>
> z/os 1.4 runs on a z13s mono-cpu with no accommodation other than 
> having all available maintenance applied.  Multi-cpu's is a wait-state.
>
> I am most concerned with Tony's comments about EE over the years.   The
> chance of these ending up on separate CECs is very low.  But I always 
> like to position for the unlikely.  I want to conserve my efforts.. to 
> establish communication between the LPARs and pick the method that is 
> most likely to work coupled with having the best flexibility.  But # 1 
> priority is that it works.
>
> Rob Schramm
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:23 AM Timothy Sipples <sipp...@sg.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > z/OS 1.4 and z/OS 2.2 are far enough apart that there was never a 
> > single IBM machine model that officially supported both releases. 
> > IBM supported running z/OS 1.4 up to the z9 models, and z/OS 2.2 
> > starts with the z10 models. If you've got them both running on one 
> > CEC, it's lucky, and congratulations. Please make sure you're not 
> > running z/OS
> > 1.4 in Bimodal Accommodation (ESA/390 31-bit mode), by the way, for 
> > at least two big reasons.
> >
> > With that background, I don't think you can or should assume a 
> > single CEC "forever," or even for very long. At least, it'd be 
> > prudent not to "wire in" such rigidity. If you're still nervous, you 
> > can set up both EE and CTCA connections. I recommend configuring EE 
> > (over a HiperSocket if on the same
> > CEC) as primary/favored since the performance characteristics are 
> > likely to be better, but you can backstop EE with CTCA if you wish.
> >
> > EE officially debuted with OS/390 Version 2 Release 7 in early 1999, 
> > was backported to OS/390 Version 2 Release 6, and was circulating in 
> > earlier form before that. EE certainly wasn't fresh off the boat 
> > with z/OS 1.4, which reached End of Service in 2007, over 8 years 
> > after EE debuted. z/OS
> > 1.4 is plenty new enough for these purposes. I recall plenty of EE 
> > adoption in z/OS 1.4 and prior.
> >
> >
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> > Timothy Sipples
> > IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM Z & LinuxONE, 
> > Multi-Geography
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