I was thinking of 3270 rather than LU1; the support is in TGET, TPG, TPUT and friends.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu> on behalf of John McKown <john.archie.mck...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 2:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > The half-duplex use of the 3270 is an application, e.g., TMP, > restriction: the VTIOC macros support a full duplex mode. > Ah. Thanks. I don't know anything about VTIOC. I'll need to take a look at it. ... A quick look at https://secure-web.cisco.com/1z5XRgkDDuTEpEPDkgUreYQARmHY_2BS2--IP-SmbN-Pe9bAvPnoboO5f7Kzs1qge6_2C7hWyXvZyMI8vh5trY9zvw83LiEi4GTR-a9tF2HKQLnDRcOJ25Bta5UNaARDIBi1hrcvWWYJrFnaBdw3y-DzrStWJOrK09JCv3X0HU-KkMXSEYnfWYE992Fh5tUpj0OwSHNBRrkBStFVi9K_S-i232vpEl-nOikN8g1vjdUf_N3RvUt5Di-HOGLWk0WYGEkuzy4tgmbWE_aqJK96xL9mHOnRLN2o0A8x5zJsseAEY7oeIu3dr0qPQ235YPMbqjwKZqBuE_dJW15fcwBNav2fTOHs-Rw4-KPR08ncjgb24A1Ms5BvzJC8724Use24-aDnnH1hrxiQJnS1w3ni6FKxt2qLRwihkQRSO62LHZjLflxYbPZpFabvss7wzPZ2e/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fknowledgecenter%2Fen%2FSSLTBW_2.1.0%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r1.istimp0%2Fappend.htm shows that TSO still support non-3270 VTAM terminals. It might be interesting to write a "3767" emulator (hum, that may just be telnet) to have a UNIX session "logon" to a 3767 TSO session. Hum, I need to think about this a bit. Not that I'm likely to actually do anything. My interest in z/OS, and computing in general, is tending downward for various reasons. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu> on behalf > of John McKown <john.archie.mck...@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 2:35 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu > Subject: Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: > > > Don't confuse the limitations of the TSO VTIOC for 3270 with the > > limitations of the application using them. The klunkiness of the OMVS > > command is because they didn't choose to avail themselves of the > available > > services. > > > > The only deficit that I see in the OMVS command is that it is what I think > of as "native" TSO 3270 whereas it should be, like SDSF, use ISPF display > services when used when they are available. I've more or less gotten used > to the "half duplex" use of the 3270 in TSO. What might be nice would be a > way, in TSO, to "background" a TSO command like you can a UNIX command. Of > course, I must remember that TSO was designed in the days of OS/MVT and is > still more concerned with "resource consumption" rather that "user > productivity". > > > > > > > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > > -- > I have a theory that it's impossible to prove anything, but I can't prove > it. > > Maranatha! <>< > John McKown > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- I have a theory that it's impossible to prove anything, but I can't prove it. Maranatha! <>< John McKown ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
