> On Mar 27, 2018, at 5:52 AM, R.S. <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> wrote: > > Well, it was easy to predict: There are no more tapes! > > What media could you order? > CST, ECCST (3480, 3490E) - not marketed for years, no native connectivity > (ESCON) > MAGSTAR - also out of market for years. And no compatible products from othe > vendors. Connectivity is ESCON or FICON, but no direct connection is possible > (16Gbps FICON can talk on 8Gbps or 4 Gbps). > JAGUAR - the last drive natively attachable to z/OS is TS1140. Is it still > marketed? Nowadays we have TS1150 and TS1155. TS1140 is 1,5 generation back. > > Last, but not least - other tape vendors do not produce anything compatible > with media delivered by IBM. Actually I should say "vendor" not "vendorS", > because only STK/Sun/Oracle produce real tapes for z/OS. > > > BTW: When I read about "strict procedures" allowing tapes but not DVD, > auditors checking foil sealings or threats regarding migration to Windows... > Is it IBM-MAIN or elementary school ? I am not defending their position at all. I am also not saying it is right or wrong. I am not allowed to talk about the company at all. I am pressing the envelope on IBM-MAIN as it is. Upper management has made the decision, rightly or wrongly, I have to live in their world. That comes with NDA’s and other legal paperwork. You can scold do whatever you want it doesn’t make a difference to me. > > Of course some shops do have strict rules, mostly it is stupidity not > security, but they had to manage tape carts in the past. Now they have to > establish process for DVDs (or other methods). BTW: How they get PTFs? AFAIK > tape delivery for PTFs is not available for years - so they HAVE some process > to put PTFs to z/OS or they do not apply any PTFs (???) or ...the story is > simply unreal. That issue is open and it is being discussed at high levels and honestly I don’t know if they have been given both sides, all I know is that I was told to stay out of the discussion.
> > That remains me the discussion about HMC call home functionality when modem > was dropped and replaced with VPN. > > Oh, I prefer tapes fo ServerPac installation. I will miss them. Now I'm going > to prepare huge ZFS for ServerPac. Easy, I have a lot of time for that. Radoslaw: I am kind of curious as to if IBM has updated the basic I/O that is need to bring up a system and how it will have to be changed to accommodate this IBM commandment. I, unlike you do NOT like SERVPAC installations, I was in it since day 5 and hated it then and I hate it still today. I prefer either CBIPO or CBPDO. I have done many servpac installations and they get harder each time (and longer). The amount of DASD is outrageous and I expect to be turned down if it grows, I am not sure what will happen when I get turned down. Maybe the windows guys will have better luck than me. Ed > > Regards > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
