I would go so far as to assert that there was never a 'no-ACCEPT policy', only an ad hoc practice advocated by what I always thought were outliers. Open any IBM doc on SMP(/E) ever published and you will find the same canonical procedure:
--RECEIVE --APPLY --ACCEPT (maybe hold off on this a while, but resolve to do it eventually) Having never given no-ACCEPT serious consideration, I can't speak for its motivation. I suspect that it was a combination of (misguided) RESTORE concerns and a sense that ACCEPT represents wasted cycles--CPU and bioware. Some may have believed that the whole DLIB environment entailed unnecessary DASD space. When DASD became radically cheaper--and people became more expensive--no-ACCEPT may have looked like a penny saved. I personally think that's false economy. ACCEPT, besides stuffing a lot of data into distribution libraries, also performs SMP/E cleanup. Until ACCEPT, RECEIVEd sysmods remain in the PTS, which grows insidiously like the Blob over the life of each FMID. Likewise TLIBs, which hold the verbatim content of all sysmods, are not deleted until ACCEPT (if then--it's optional). Having said all that, I suspect that there are still Never ACCEPTers out there who are unlikely to change their ways. I'm guessing that OP Ed Jaffe is looking at this issue from the perspective a software supplier. It's hard to imagine that the owners of SMP/E will ever alter the recommended procedure. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gerhard Adam Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 8:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: [External] Old School Maintenance Philosophy -- Never ACCEPT? I also don't recall a "never ACCEPT" policy. That would be silly because it becomes a "never RESTORE" policy. Sent from my iPhone > On May 23, 2018, at 7:08 AM, David L. Craig <dlc....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 18May23:1247+0000, Pommier, Rex wrote: >> >> Not sure how long ago eons was, but I started in the mid-80s on >> MVS/SP and at my first SMP/E (and I believe >> only) class, I was taught the APPLY / run for a while / ACCEPT usage >> - except for USERMODs or APARs that hadn't had a published PTF yet. > > I learned to use SMP back on MVT (am I the only one still here that > can truthfully make that statement?) and while it's been a while since > I last used SMP/E, I do not recall ever encountering a no ACCEPT > policy for any IBM MRM. > But people aren't mentioning policy for archiving snapshots of target > and DLIB volumes and restoring therefrom--much faster than reAPPLYing > LOTS of maintenance. That also requires tracking the target/DLIB > volume snapshot associations, which are not necessarily based upon the > dates of the snapshots. > -- > <not cent from sell> > May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
