I don't think the key would matter, because it can immediately be deleted, 
leaving the file "empty" but with the HI RBA appropriately set in order to 
avoid the issue.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one bothered by this.  I'm still wondering how 
much support an RFE might get.

Is there any standard utility that is able to add and delete a record?  I don't 
see IDCAMS having any such option.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of 
Edward Gould <edgould1...@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 9:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: empty KSDS behavior - why?

> On May 27, 2018, at 8:51 PM, Charles Mills <charl...@mcn.org> wrote:
>
> Exactly. I am no VSAM guy ... but whatever magic you have to do manually go 
> get the VSAM file to be readable, why can't AMS just do that when it creates 
> the file? Is there any reason anyone would want a "virginal" (unreadable) 
> VSAM file specifically?
>
> How many ABENDs, how many application problems, how many stupid little 
> customer fixup programs and PROCs could have been saved if AMS just did that 
> from the get-go?
>
> Or am I missing something? As I say, I am no VSAM guy.
>
> Charles
Charles,
I like many others feel your pain. I can understand it in a way, say a KSDS and 
(in your world) VSAM automagically adds a record. What key would IBM possibly 
use that high end up without it being a duplicate key. RRDS would automatically 
loose 1 record as the first record would be ??. IBM decided (I think) to take 
it as its *YOUR* dataset and its up to you to prime it.
Ed


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