[Default] On 10 Jul 2018 06:16:08 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main t...@vse2pdf.com (Tony Thigpen) wrote:
>I wish those of you not current on VSE would remember that we have had >just as many years to change things as z/OS has. Oh, wait, we have >longer. DOS came out before what ever MVS was called back then. > >z/VSE has a lot of things in the JCL that z/OS has no equal to. I work >both areas and there are many things in z/VSE that I miss in z/OS. There >are also some things in z/OS that are not in z/VSE, but the last z/VSE >to z/OS conversion I did, the client programmers hated the 'limitations' >they found in z/OS and had to go do a lot of program changes due to >these limits. > >Later, when I have time, I will list some of those things. Thes could and should lead to some RFEs being submitted. Clark Morris > >Tony Thigpen > >ITschak Mugzach wrote on 07/10/2018 08:46 AM: >> ... And I may add that if VSE JCL was so good, it wouldn't have so many >> private extensions (and I've seem some of them). >> >> ITschak >> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 2:37 PM Dana Mitchell <mitchd...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> My memories of VSE JCL are dated, and quite possbily incorrect with >>> current VSE, but I recall that I felt it was more complicated that MVS >>> jcl. It had more types of statements (although fewer parms per type), >>> JOB, * $$ JOB, UPSI, OPTION, LIBDEF, PAUSE, and EXEC statements. To >>> describe a disk file, potentially required at least 3 statements, ASSIGN, >>> DLBL, and EXTENT. Tape required ASSIGN and TLBL, tape, disk and inline >>> files were not interchangeable as far as programs were concerned. >>> >>> An interesting 'feature' was that syntax checking was done at execution >>> time, so when a JCL error was encountered, a console message was issued >>> that required a reply, allowing you to retype the errant statement. So in >>> the days of real card readers, if you needed to make a quick one time >>> change to a job, you could just flip the card around backwards, causing >>> 'Invalid Statement' console message prompt, allowing you to type in the >>> statement you really wanted. >>> >>> Dana >>> >>> On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 16:41:40 -0300, Clark Morris <cfmt...@uniserve.com> >>> wrote: >>>> How does z/OS JCL compare with VSE JCL? My memories of DOS360 JCL >>> probably are >>>> irrelevant. >>>> >>>> Clark Morris >>>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> >> >> > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
