Obviously, if you have a lot of spare time, I am sure you can figure it
out.  IBM wouldn't be so tight-lipped about it if there wasn't an issue.

Rob Schramm



On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 3:53 PM Charles Mills <charl...@mcn.org> wrote:

> It is a security APAR and details are available only through the Security
> Portal.
>
> And yes, if you are grumbling, you are not alone.
>
> Charles
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Rob Schramm
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 12:48 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Spectre/Meltdown APAR - OA54807
>
> Is is something IBM can do verbally via meeting that they are unwilling to
> detail in the issue(s)?
>
> Seems to me there have been some things like this in the past that the only
> information was provided in closed meetings?
> But then again.. maybe that was a movie.. need to clean the cobwebs out of
> the brain today!
>
> Rob Schramm
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 3:10 PM Lizette Koehler <stars...@mindspring.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I did a general GOOGLE search on OA54807.  Some 3rd party vendors were
> > recommending their customers delay implementation for now.  I am not one
> of
> > their customers - so could not get more inform
> >
> > But, it might be an interesting process by googling this and seeing what
> > might
> > catch your interest
> >
> > Lizette
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On
> > Behalf Of
> > > Jousma, David
> > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:39 AM
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: Spectre/Meltdown APAR - OA54807
> > >
> > > OK, so I opened a Q&A PMR with IBM on this topic.  Mostly about
> > > implementation with regards to software remediation if accessing
> PSASTAK.
> > > My question was whether or not OSPROTECT=SYSTEM (lowest setting) would
> > cause
> > > these apps to fail, or if the next level would be where the problem
> would
> > > surface....  Reason why question is important to me, at the lowest
> > setting,
> > > backing out means regressing z/OS maint, and IPLing vs just changing
> the
> > > OSPROTECT setting, and IPLing....a huge difference.  I get the cloak of
> > > secrecy with regards to vulnerabilities, but c'mon IBM, help me come up
> > with
> > > a viable implementation plan.....I guess in the absence of more
> concrete
> > > information, I'll have to prepare for having everything remediated
> > before the
> > > PTF goes on z/OS and have an extended burn-in period as we migrate this
> > out.
> > >
> > > My response from IBM was:
> > >
> > > "As much as I would be happy to address new questions, they touch on
> > > important and not disclosed details regarding the OSPROTECT
> > > implementation. It is very regrettable but we may not provide more
> > > information on the new option than what may be found in the
> downloadable
> > > Documentation Updates for APAR OA54807."
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Jousma, David
> > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 12:54 PM
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: Spectre/Meltdown APAR - OA54807
> > >
> > > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL**
> > >
> > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or
> > > unexpected emails**
> > >
> > > I am holding off for now, so that we can call all of our software
> > vendors as
> > > well as get the preq MCL's installed on our z14s.   From what I have
> > read,
> > > there is no way to install the fixes, and continue to run with it fully
> > off
> > > while we make those vendor calls.  I suspect we'll tackle this early
> next
> > > year and run an extended maintenance cycle in our non-prod environments
> > to
> > > allow for plenty of burn-in.  the other part of this is that it is an
> > IPL to
> > > turn on OSPROTECT=1 and another IPL to turn it back off (SYSTEM mode)
> if
> > > problems are encountered.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Phillips, Thomas
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 3:38 PM
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: Spectre/Meltdown APAR - OA54807
> > >
> > > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL**
> > >
> > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or
> > > unexpected emails**
> > >
> > > Has anyone installed OA54807?  If so, did you see any performance
> > impacts?
> > > Any other gotchas that you'd like to share?
> > >
> > > Has anyone implemented OSPROTECT=1?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tom Phillips
> > > Principal Financial Group
> > >
> > >
> > >
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