I've found IBM to be quite accommodating in cases where a customer owns a license in good standing, i.e. paid up maintenance. I would ask for permission to seek a 'donation' from some other customer, which might itself be an internal IBM site. You could probably manage with a BUILDMCS from someone's SMPE environment. Just find out their favorite brand of whiskey, and don't skimp. ;-)
. . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Kind of lame SMP/E question Thanks, that is the direction I have asked them to pursue. It sounds like working around SMP/E is possible but not one's first choice (as I suspected). Thanks, all. Charles -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Chris Hoelscher Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Kind of lame SMP/E question The SMP/E libraries may be gone - but are the dataset/members to create/populate them still present ?? Chris Hoelscher Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services Humana Inc. 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY 40202 Humana.com (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 10:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Kind of lame SMP/E question For any product install, the SMPE Libraries are critical. I do not think you can just build an SMP/E environment without them So you are saying all of the SMP/e environment for this product is gone. Then the client may be in a bad place. As stated, see if a friendly IBM Account manager can help. But you cannot receive any maintenance without the CSI/TLIBs/DLIBs The JCLIN would be critical for SMP/E to know what to do with the "parts" Lizette > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > Behalf Of Jackson, Rob > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 5:03 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Kind of lame SMP/E question > > "Readily" and "relatively easy" will probably not apply here, so the > answers are not likely and nope. > > You could dummy up a function/functions and receive the PTFs against > it/them, but that won't buy you much other than metadata. Even in > IBM, things are packaged differently, but I would expect the sysmods > would be compacted. To expand them, you would use GIMCPTS, and then > you could figure out how to use the necessary utilities to install > them--and pay attention to the order, of course. Depending on the > number of sysmods, that could really be a hag. > > Which product? I'm very curious. More appealing alternatives might > be to contact your ever-changing IBM rep, if you can figure out who it > is, or a VAR. Or, someone on this list: if they have it, and it's > current, then you might be able to get somewhere without violating any > license agreement: CSI, etc./TLIBs/DLIBs . . . done. I'd trust > something packaged up by someone else much more than something I > hacked together from raw sysmods, unless it were fewer than or equal > to approximately two. > > First Tennessee Bank > Mainframe Technical Support > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > Behalf Of Charles Mills > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:42 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Kind of lame SMP/E question > > [External Email] > > I have a client who is licensed for and has installed a particular IBM > software product on z/OS. The product is out of marketing but still in > service. They have all the actual product libraries but managed > apparently to delete the SMP/E datasets some time ago. They now need > to apply a set of PTFs but are of course unable to do so without the > SMP/E datasets. They cannot re- order the product because it is out of marketing. > > I am a self-confessed SMP/E ignoramus. Is there some way to readily > create a minimal SMP/E environment that would be "good enough"? Is > there a relatively easy way to apply PTFs outside of SMP/E? Yeah, I > know the questions are kind of lame, but I am outside of my comfort > zone here and trying to help someone solve a problem. > > Thanks much, > Charles ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
