I'll have to try this one.:)  I hope it turns out to be not true, but it 
actually seems like a logical possibility.

Brian


On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:56:46 +0100, Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services) 
<andy.sty...@lloydsbanking.com> wrote:

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>The "platinum" (or <insert precious metal here>) build says to have a single 
>master cat for all systems in a sysplex. Now I get that not everything is a 
>sysplex, but where it is, take caution. 
>
>Where you have master cats for other systems as user cats, there's a big red 
>flag - the system won't let you delete the active master cat for the system 
>you're on (you get IDC3009I, RC 90, RSN 2), but nothing stops you deleting a 
>user cat that is also the master cat for another system.
> 
>Once that "user cat" has been deleted, the other system very quickly decides 
>that it can no longer continue life. (page datasets, from memory, are what it 
>complained about first..)
>
>Andy Styles
>z/Series System Programmer
>
>
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>Subject: Re: Master cats as user cats on other systems - why?
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>On Wed, 26 Se2 2018 14:09:48 +0000, Allan Staller wrote:
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>>I tend to generally concur w/Brian, but I do want to add an observation.
>>
>>Any time there are (three of something) vs (one of something)  you are 
>>(almost certainly) guaranteed to the one or more of the three, out of sync.
>>Correction of "out of sync" conditions is generally painful and involves a 
>>great deal of research and time to correct.
>>
>>Or to say the above in the short and sweet manner:
>>Two or more of something that don't agree, is worse than having nothing.
>>
>“never go to sea with two chronometers, take one or three”
>    -- The Mythical Man-Month 
>    https://blog.ipspace.net/2017/01/never-take-two-chronometers-to-sea.html
>
>>The above being said, most "out of sync" conditions can be prevented by 
>>application of appropriate operational discipline.
>>It has been my experience that very few shops employ appropriate operational 
>>discipline.
>>
>>For this reason, I lean towards shared, rather than separate.
>
>-- gil
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