It's SOP for vendors who issue CPU-based keys to require notification of upcoming hardware changes in order to generate new keys. One particular vendor demands to see the results of 'D M=CPU' for *every individual LPAR* on a box. I can't tell you how supremely irritating this is. For a typical push-pull installation, we can't even IPL all (or often any) LPARs on a new box until Big Bang day when everything has to work ASAP. At that point the product in question will not run at all. (This one has no grace period.) Furthermore, on our DR box, most LPARs do not run at all except during DR tests. Again, the product will not work at all until we play the vendor's key game.
Advice to vendors: if you force your customer to manage without your product for some time, you run the risk of demonstrating how to manage without it forever. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 12:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: CPU ID display incorrect? BTW "84" is Singapore, FWIW. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): https://developer.ibm.com/tv/mpt/ or https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id1127943573?mt=2 Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu_65HaYgksbF6Q8SQ4oOvA From: Elardus Engelbrecht <elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 15/10/2018 13:46 Subject: Re: CPU ID display incorrect? Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Tony Thigpen wrote: >Ok, I was not thinking clearly yesterday. Nevermind, Sunday is supposed to be a day to rest, go to church and enjoy your few precious times with your family, but we z/Os support don't have that luxury, we must respond within 3.5 nanoseconds once a problem appears no matter the time/date/urgency/impact ... ;-) >My 'well seasoned' z/OS systems programmer was having a FIT because he thought someone had sent the vendor the wrong CPU-ID for an expiring product (VTAM-Switch) that was scheduled for a key installation this weekend. He is two timezones away and was telling me that I can't be reading the sticker on the frame correctly because of what the D M=CPU was showing. Aw, cr*p! He is insulting you and wasting your precious time! >The thing is, he did not even try the new key before he started the fussing. He just looked at the vendor's email (which included the real CPUID), looked at the D M=CPU and started an email war. It escalated before I had a chance to even think about the LPAR id. Did I told you that he is insulting you in a royal way? In fact, always ensure what your vendor (and your 'seasoned' programmer) has, is EXACTLY the same what you read. But never mind, I totally ignored that part of VTAM-Print, because I am 101% unfamiliar with that thing. You said: "Additionally, VTAM-Print says: (GSMINITL) THIS CPU: 758C7" That number is not near that number you posted ... A58C7 From my Sub-Capacity Report, I always compare that these 2 lines Machine Serial Number 84-????? <5 numbers> Machine Type and Model ????-??? <4 numbers-3 numbers> ... match with this from D M=CPU, where I see this: CPC ND = 00????.???.IBM.84.0000000????? (That is where your A58C7 sit) and also the same with CPC SI. Please kick that 'well seasoned' z/OS systems programmer where the sun is not shining and show him the door. Thanks for your clarification anyways. ;-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
