> In order to call the SVC a programmer would have to know about it first as 
> well as have a need for it;

There's a difference between "have a need' and "have a legitimate need". IMHO 
the use of "magic" SVC routines should have ended decades ago, and it's not 
terribly difficult to reverse engineer them.


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LRS used to provide source code for various VPS modules and I found it in one 
of their libs.
It was not meant to be distributed.
In order to call the SVC a programmer would have to know about it first as well 
as have a need for it;
neither of which applied to any CICS application programmers.

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I'm glad to hear you don't run it.  It's not the few nano seconds, it's the 
idea that anyone could call it, passing any address to any routine, and be in 
supervisor state.   Are you sure LRS would have distributed this?   It would 
seem hard to believe, honestly.

I'd implore you to NOT give this to anyone if they ask for it.

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The   SVC code just sets the JSCBAUTH bit on for a few nanoseconds while the 
user code runs and then sets if off  in response to another SVC call to do so.
I do not run it any more but it really came in handy and did not cause any 
problems.

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Eileen,  that code sounds suspiciously like a huge security vulnerability?  Am 
I missing something?

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I actually have run a few CICS programs in supervisor state using an old SVC 
routine that LRS used to provide - You just pass it the address of the code to 
run and it sets the JSCBAUTH bit on so that the code runs in supervisor 
state/key 0.
I needed this in order to issue MVS commands directly from CICS, like VTAM 
commands to vary devices INACT and START commands for various things.
I still have the SVC code if anyone wants it.

The problem with CICS has always been that it sets the JSCBAUTH  bit off after 
initialization so that APF authorized programs cannot run.



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You need to be supervisor state to do this. Using CICS just because it is 
easier is a wrong decision.

But if you are sold on using CICS, you would need to write a SVC routine to 
actually do the work and have your transaction supply a CICS area as a buffer 
and the SVC routine will do the IFI work and return the record.

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 05:08:36 -0500 Wang Rong <wang_r...@csbucn.com> wrote:

:>Hi Binyamin,
:>
:>     Many thanks to your quick replay.
:>     I'm trying to capture/send DB2 log record using IFI call. The storage 
requirement is ECSA key 7 storage: "The return area for monitor programs that 
issue IFCID 0306 requests must reside either in ECSA key 7 storage or in the 
64-bit common key 7 storage area above the 2-GB bar" (from IBM book).
:>     I prefer to use CICS because it's easy programming.
:>
:>

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