On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 8:28 AM Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> wrote:
> By "crippled", it could be during early IPL or late shutdown. > It's been too long since I actually worked on VM (VM/XA actually!). I remember setting up the MVS guest ID to IPL CMS and set things up using the PROFILE EXEC. But there wasn't anything available for shutdown. I monitor this forum mainly because I loved VM and still miss it. > > Tony Thigpen > > John McKown wrote on 6/4/19 8:20 AM: > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 5:23 PM Tony Thigpen <t...@vse2pdf.com> wrote: > > > >> I would not convert it to LE. > >> > >> I have strong feelings that any system tool like this must be able to > >> run in a crippled system with as little support from the OS as possible. > >> > > > > Hum. I hadn't thought of running this in a "crippled" environment. I > would > > have imagined that I would be logged into the z/VM "console" for the z/OS > > guest to interactively issue CP commands, rather than via TSO or batch. > > > > > > > >> > >> As an opinion, I think that simple programs like this should not be > >> converted to base-less programming either. One, there is no need and > >> second, I believe that abend fixing is easier with a base address. > >> > >> KISS rules. :-) > >> > > > > True. I think that baseless programming is actually simpler. But in a > very > > short routine like this one, it doesn't really make much of a difference. > > Almost all of the "application" code that I write now is baseless, with > R&I > > instructions as well as LE enabled. Why LE? Because I can then use a lot > of > > LE routines as well a C language subroutines, such as "snprintf" (which > is > > wonderful to make nicely formatted messages). There are some nice ones. I > > know that many still hate LE, but I have learned to love the pain. > > > > > > > >> > >> I have no real opinion about making a unix command as I don't really use > >> unix that much, but personally I would prefer that a unix user not have > >> access to VM commands. > >> > > > > I do a _LOT_ of z/OS UNIX shell scripting. I can do a UNIX shell script > and > > get an answer faster than writing a TSO REXX program. Why should a TSO > user > > have access, but not a UNIX user? I, personally, don't see any > difference. > > I like what I read from Mr. Elliot about using RACF to restrict access to > > this program. Of course, this can be done implicitly done by putting the > > code in a place where unauthorized user cannot access it. I.e. no access > to > > the STEPLIB or UNIX directory which contains the program. > > > > > > Of course, for me, all of this is theoretical because I don't have access > > to a z/VM system. > > > > > > > >> > >> Tony Thigpen > >> > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. Maranatha! <>< John McKown ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
