If they have 'job' authority, they can submit a JOB via SYSOUT(A,INTRDR)

On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:06 PM Bob Bridges <robhbrid...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not sure where to ask this, but I've wondered about it off and on for a
> while and it's past time I asked.  I'm responsible for security at a
> mainframe shop where they use a lot of CICS.  There are CICS transactions
> that fire off batch jobs; the way this place handles it is to submit the
> job under the authority of the CICS region ID (USER=<region> on the JOB
> card), and give each user of such a transaction the necessary authority.
>
> This gives me the screaming heeby-jeebies, but when I complain about it I
> get little support back.  The problem, of course, is that if I'm authorized
> to submit jobs with USER=<region> on the JOB card then I can submit ~any~
> such job, to do anything I want that the region can do.  (And of course any
> installation that's careless about letting folks have that authority is
> even more careless about what their CICS regions can do.)
>
> One argument management offers in mitigation is that most of these CICS
> users don't have TSO, so they haven't the ability to submit batch jobs.
> Off-hand I can't contradict them, but I'm skeptical.  I'm thinking there's
> probably a way and I just don't know about it.  Can anyone confirm?  If I
> were a CICS user without the ability to log on to TSO, could I still submit
> a batch job somehow?
>
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