Binary zeros would not be good for disguising an underlying pattern. Back in 
the late '60s, the intelligence community could read several layers deep, no 
matter what had been written over it, so the real ability to recover data today 
must be almost frightening. I think that with CYCLES(n), a different pattern is 
written each cycle. If not, it should be.

Regards,
Richard Schuh

 -----Original Message-----
From:   The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of 
Alan Altmark
Sent:   Friday, June 23, 2006 3:17 PM
To:     IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject:        Re: DASD Secure Erase

On Friday, 06/23/2006 at 04:16 AST, "Lewis, David (SCI TW)" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With today's DASD the only way to ensure that the data is gone is to 
write 
> garbage to cylinder after cylinder, volume after volume, until the 
device can 
> no longer store anymore data.

Look at ICKDSF TRKFMT FROMRANGE(0,0) ERASEDATA CYCLES(n).  It writes a 
"special pattern" (as opposed to binary zeroes, I guess).

Maybe it's "good enough".  A company's data policy should indicate how 
good the erasure must be.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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