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On: Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 01:19:47PM -0500,Stracka, James (GTI) Wrote:

} I second having HCPLNM108E messages come to the System Operator or
} trapped in a SPOOLed CONSOLE without having the id SCIFed. 
} 
}       -----Original Message-----
}       From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
} [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter
}       Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:42 AM
}       To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
}       Subject: Re: "MORE..." time during IPL
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}       That's the same way VM:Secure works; AUTOLOG1 does minimal setup
} work and AUTOLOGs VMSECURE; VMSECURE then starts up and then AUTOLOGs
} AUTOLOG2 which brings up the "usual suspects".   
}       
}       I have written some code that runs in VMSECURE "PROFILE EXEC"
} which keeps checking for VM:Operator (could be PROP) to start up before
} VM:Secure begins.  That permits VM:Operator (again, could  be PROP) to
} properly handle any ESM error messages right from the start. 
}       
}       It would be really nice if we could issue some CP commands (such
} as starting the virtual console SPOOLing) from the user's directory
} entry so that missing devices error messages and such at logon and such
} could be logged.  Maybe IBM could deliver such a present (going back to
} VMSHARE's "NOTE XMASGIFT") in a future z/VM release? 
}       
}       Mike Walter
} 
}       Hewitt Associates
} 
}       Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not
} necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. 
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}       
} "Colin Allinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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}       
}       Sorry for the late append on this subject but I have been away
} for the last week. 
}       
}       In this shop we use an ESS (RACF) and take the view that the
} sole job of AUTOLOG1 is to start up the ESS - nothing else. 
}       
}       In the way we work OPERATOR has code in it's profile to wait
} until either the ESS is available or a set amount of time since the
} system IPL has expired. 
}       
}       All of the servers are started by AUTOLOG2 which is autologged
} by OPERATOR when it is happy that the time is right, (there are various
} checks to ensure that this is only done after an IPL and to allow
} AUTOLOG2 processing to be bypassed when this is what we want). 
}       
}       Even though you may not have an ESS there is no reason why you
} could not take this approach with AUTOLOG1 setting some value (or
} switch) on which OPERATOR could work. 
}       
}       Regards 
}       
}       Colin Allinson 
}       Amadeus Data Processing 
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