3174L has nothing to do with whether it is SNA or not, its how you config it also 3174R is remote and is not channel attached on a new CPU which has not BUS/TAG you need to make sure you have a ESCON attached 3174
"Stracka, James (GTI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To .com> IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sent by: The IBM cc z/VM Operating System Subject <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Two Questions About VM ARK.EDU> 04/11/2007 02:55 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ARK.EDU> Kris, Thanks for reminding me about the 3174L (Local) vs 3174 (SNA). Was that a 3174R or just plain 3174? With the 3174L both TCP/IP and VTAM are not required as the are LOCAL terminals to VM. Jim -----Original Message----- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:43 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Two Questions About VM As already replied; DDR cannot restore to a disk of another device type. So if your input is on tape, you will need to find a system with that type of DASD. I don't know by heart, but may DITTO is able to restore DDR tapes to another type of disk. If however you have a running system with different types of DASD connected, you can use DFSMS COPY to copy CMS formatted minidisks from one disk type to another (even from CKD to FBA). DFSMS comes free of charge with VM, but it is only installed when you explictely do it (DFSMS COPY is high speed, it used to be a lot faster than DDR). If this is your case, contact me again, I have some execs to help you during such a migration. 3174's came in two versions: a SNA one and a channel attached version. To use the channel attached version, no extra SW is required on VM, no TCP/IP, no VTAM either. The SNA model requires VTAM. If you got a modern CPU (like a z series) and a not too old z/VM, you can use the integrated 3270 console and install VM from the HMC (hardware console). No need to search for any other 3270-like device. P.S. 9345's were not FBA, but CKD -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support 2007/4/11, Stracka, James (GTI) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I can answer the second. VTAM and TCP/IP are totally independent on VM. TCP/IP does not use CSA in GCS as it does on OS/390 systems. I am unfamiliar with a 9395. If it is also an FBA device, you can restore block ranges but the entire DASD depends on the amount of blocks. You may go smaller to larger but not larger to smaller. -----Original Message----- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sergio Lima Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:12 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Two Questions About VM Hi List, I don't work with VM for a long time, but now, have a friend that ask some questions, and I don't remember very well, so, I need a help in this list. The first question are about DDR, Is possible do a DDR Backup from 9345 DASD, and restore this to a 9395 DASD ? Another question is if need install TCP/IP under VM, using a 3174 device, is necessary have also VTAM installed under VM. This TCP/IP will be used only for Telnet. Thanks in advance Sergio Lima Costa __________________________________________________ Fale com seus amigos de graça com o novo Yahoo! Messenger http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/ If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender, delete it and do not read, act upon, print, disclose, copy, retain or redistribute it. Click here for important additional terms relating to this e-mail. http://www.ml.com/email_terms/