My QDSK EXEC contains logic to get quite some information from the CMS
header records when a disk cannot be accessed as it is empty or has only FM0
files (the information you can get includes things like when was the disk
formatted, last accessed in R/W).  It uses RxDASD or DDR PRINT to read
header records from the minidisk (so no need for modern pipes, ad no DDR to
copy the whole  -maybe large- minidisk).

Ask and you it'll be sent (as I did to Ian).
-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

2007/9/18, David Kreuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> DDRing from r/o source disk  to r/w tdisk will show all stats and all
> files
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Stracka, James (GTI)
> Sent: Tue 9/18/2007 3:56 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: [IBMVM] ACCESS empty RR disk fails
>
>
>
> The disk can have files but if they are all MODE 0, you do not get to
> ACCESS it either.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of David Kreuter
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:50 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: ACCESS empty RR disk fails
>
>
> Ian: You can roll your own/fend for yourself. Start  by using DDR. Say
> your mdisk is at vaddr 1B0. DDR INPUT 1B0 DASD TYPE 0 0 3
>
> cyl 0 head 0 record 3 has the label information.  You can decode the
> info there and get the numbers you need.
>
> Or if its a small sized disk, and you have sufficient tdisk, define a
> tdisk of the same size, ddr the r/o over to the r/w tdisk and et voila
> you can access and then see your stats. This would even work by creating
> a 1 cylinder tdisk (and then just copy cyl 0), but ... it's weird and
> somewhat dangerous ....
>
> David
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Ian S. Worthington
> Sent: Tue 9/18/2007 12:20 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: [IBMVM] ACCESS empty RR disk fails
>
>
>
> I've come across this a few times but never understood *why* accessing
> an empty disk I've linked RR should fail (rc=28, iirc).  Any good reason
> for that?
>
> And any way to *prevent* it from failing?  (I'm not after the files I'm
> after the disk stats I can only get when the disk is accessed.)
>
> ian
> ...
>

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