Are you using TSM for file level backups? If so, are you happy with it? Thanks, Alyce
-----Original Message----- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 7:34 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backup CMS files Not really. If you are willing to take a Linux guest down, you can back up the full minidisks with VM:Backup or the corresponding IBM product, but you can only restore a full minidisk. If you want to do file level restores on Linux, or backups while Linux is up, you will have to use Linux based tools, such as Netbackup or Bacula or TSM. We have been struggling with this question ourselves. We licensed a CA product called Brightstore Archive Bakup (BAB) two years ago. After two years of fighting with it, we just decided to delete it. It never worked reliably. The reason to choose BAB was that it will backup to mainframe tapes (such as our STK Silos). The other Linux products want to use midrange tapes instead. You might want to ask about Linux backups on the LINUX-390 list instead of this list. See <http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?linux-390>. On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:52:49 -0700, Brent Litster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >One thing I forget to mention is that we will be running Linux instances >under z/VM as well. Do the CA and IBM products address Linux files as >well? > > > >Brent Litster > >Zions Management Services Company > >2185 South 3270 West > >West Valley City 84119 > >(801) 844-5545 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >________________________________ > >From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas >Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:16 PM >To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >Subject: Re: Backup CMS files > > > >I have to agree with Ed. Some human had to write the code does it really >matter who paid his salary? >It also depends on what you are backing up. >If your z/VM is used almost entirely to host other operating systems and >very little ever happens in CMS one solution may be proper, but on the >other hand if you have millions of lines of source code (or production >files) in CMS you may want to consider a more sophisticated approach. > >-----Original Message----- >From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Behalf Of Ed Zell >Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:06 PM >To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >Subject: Re: Backup CMS files > > > >> Relying on home-grown, unsupported tools is probably not >> something anyone wants to do when considering a long-term >> career. :-) > > > >Oh I wouldn't go quite that far. We have been running our >home grown CMS backup system for about 19 years now. It isn't >too complicated, just a series of LINK, ACCESS, & VMFPLC2 DUMP >commands. And it is very reliable too. We keep our yearly >generations for 10 years and I can still easily recover a single >file from any minidisk on those tapes. And only 143 lines in >the EXEC, with 20 or so of them being comments!! > >I do agree that given the proper dollars in the budget, a >purchased, supported package would be a much better choice. >But back in the VM/SP 6 days, a CMS backup solution was very >expensive for a little bitty 8 MIP, 4381 shop. So I did what >I had to do, write some code and save some money. It isn't >perfect, but as I said before, the price was right. > >Ed Zell >Illinois Mutual Life >(309) 674-8255 x-107 >. > > > >CONFIDENTIALITY: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain >confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized >disclosure or use is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, >notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. > >