It is my understanding that IBM intends to integrate Cell Blade engine (e.g. playstation 3) technology into the z/Series ecosystem. This would seem to me to be the place where massively parallel high intensity cpu workload would live in the not so far flung future.
-----Original Message----- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:59 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Nice idea in blog: Should we toss x86 architecture - NOT. Ok, so reality check folks before y'all start drooling about jobs and can think you can run 47000 windows servers under VM. In Linux we learned that running compiled code "natively" on "z", megahertz is megahertz and a CPU intensive task would always run faster on Intel than on "z" (until we got z9 and z10). And that is "native" meaning the programs were compiled to run on z, and the operating system was compiled to run on z. So now, under CMS, this emulates intel. So megahertz is NOT megahertz. With emulating an architecture, one could easily imagine losing an order of magnitude. Thus a windows server that is running at 10% peak on a 4Ghz processor would consume a z10 IFL and want more. One does need to pay significant attention to the performance characteristics before thinking about something like this seriously. Sorry. Gary M. Dennis wrote: > Z/VOS is a CMS application. The glass-side user will only see Windows via > RDC and know nothing of or about CMS or VM. > > Gary > > On 7/22/08 8:30 PM, "dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Good luck, Gary. I do hope your organization can pull this >>off. VM-ers need more employment possibilities....:-) >> >>I gather from some of your previous posts to this list that >>your Windows support software, z/VOS, is in fact a >>sophisticated CMS-based application, that is a user would >>log onto a CMS user id to start his Windows system....is my >>understanding correct? >> >>Thanks and have a good one. >> >>DJ >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Gary M. Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >>Subject: Re: Nice idea in blog: Should we toss x86 >>architecture >>Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:02:33 -0500 >> >> >>>This was our post to the zd net blog. >>> >>> >>>"Maybe we already have. >>> >>>In Q1 2009 Mantissa will deliver a system that permits >>>unaltered Windows operating systems to run under z/VM. >>>Using a desktop appliance running RDC, users will be able >>>to connect to their virtual Windows images running in the >>>VM environment. Goodbye desktop hardware, remote >>>maintenance, high power consumption, machine order lead >>>time. >>> >>>z/VOS began with the observation that most Windows >>>workstations do practically nothing 95% of the time and we >>>were so intrigued with the idea of being able to actually >>>run an intel-based operating system under IBM VM that we >>>never looked back. VM provided a natural platform for >>>development of this product. >>> >>>The product has been a bear for the development group but >>>the thought of being able to run 3000 copies of Windows on >>>one System z so fascinated the team that we needed very >>>little additional incentive. >>> >>>Let's hope IBM can ramp up System z production." >>> >>> >>>Why wait until 2016? >>>--. .- .-. -.-- >>> >>>Gary Dennis >>>Mantissa Corporation >>> >>>On 7/22/08 11:14 AM, "Bob Heerdink" >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=9183 >>>> >>>>"Should we toss x86 architecture and wipe the slate with >>>>something greene r >>>>and more scalable?" >>>> >>>>"Windows Server 2016 128-bit edition running virtualized >>>>on z/VM in a gre en >>>>datacenter, accessed via my house from a thin client >>>>over high-speed fibe r >>>>optic connection. I can see it now." >>>> >>>>Hope this happens sooner than predicted, >>>>Bob >>>> >> > >