That advice goes without saying...any effort to develop a
sophisticated VM application demands a good monitor to help
the developers tune that application to meet performance
goals.

DJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Barton Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: IUCV -  What's wrong with this picture?
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:13:20 -0800

> Sounds like there is a need for decent performance
> monitoring.
> 
> 
> dave wrote:
> 
> > Hi, Gary.
> > 
> > 
> > Well, there is no such thing as a free lunch, so
> > establishing *large* numbers of IUCV connections between
> > virtual machines does cost something. Control blocks
> > must be allocated, must be managed by CP, interrupts
> > fielded, etc. Off of the top of my head, I don't know
> > how much storage these control blocks take, but I would
> > suspect that with CP now being 64-bit, the amount of
> > storage taken would not be a significant issue.
> > 
> > Even if the amount of traffic between the clients and
> > the VM server is slight; the *timing* of the traffic
> > might be a concern.....5000 clients all sending a short
> > IUCV message at the same time to the server, might cause
> > problems. The server would have to have enough resources
> > available to process all of the traffic in an acceptable
> > amount of time....
> > 
> > Good luck.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary M. Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: IUCV -  What's wrong with this picture?
> > Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:23:49 -0500
> > 
> > 
> >>Assumptions:
> >>
> >>0. A VM server machine
> >>
> >>1. A cluster of client virtual machines (possibly
> >>thousands)
> >>
> >>2. n buffers are allocated for each client virtual
> machine >>
> >>3. Each buffer contains table elements that require
> >>    (a) Element ageing
> >>    (b) Element deletion when invalidated by:
> >>        1. lack of use
> >>        2. client machine request
> >>    (c) Compression as buffer fragmentation occurs
> >>
> >>4. Each client virtual machine in the cluster is
> connected >>via IUCV to the server virtual machine.
> >>
> >>5. IUCV traffic between the server machine and client
> >>machine is extremely low volume.  Initial call,
> >>termination call, intermittent statistics call.
> >>
> >>6. After the initial call, the server virtual machine
> will >>maintain the buffer table entries in each client
> virtual >>machine without additional IUCV interaction.
> >>
> >>Now the questions:
> >>
> >>1. Does IUCV infrastructure overhead specifically
> >>associated with number of connections become prohibitive
> >>at some well known point?
> >>
> >>2. Has anyone had experience with an application having
> a >>high IUCV connection count like this? If so, what was
> that >>experience?
> >>
> >>Again, the traffic incidence per connection is very low
> >>but the number of connections is potentially very high.
> >>
> >>
> >>Thanks 
> >>
> >>
> >>--.  .-  .-.  -.--
> >>
> >>Gary Dennis
> > 
> > 
> > 

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