Granted, but were the correct texts included in the last gen of the CPLOAD 
MODULE? He said he recently changed to CPACTION * REJECT. VMSECURE QCPCFG will 
show what is currently in the active nucleus. There are more than a few ways to 
have the rules running with parameters that aren't what you expect.


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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Schuh, Richard
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:25 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Z/VM 5.4 and VM:Secure running a CLOSED security system

If the HCPRPx modules are included in the nucleus, your operators will be very 
aware of it if the Rules Facility is not running, they will get frequent 
messages to that effect.

Regards,
Richard Schuh





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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Bob Bates
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 6:43 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Z/VM 5.4 and VM:Secure running a CLOSED security system

This may have already been checked, but be sure the correct text were included  
in the last gen.

VMSECURE QCPCFG will tell you what all the settings that are currently in use 
from the VMXRPI CONFIG.


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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Ivica Brodaric
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 4:44 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Z/VM 5.4 and VM:Secure running a CLOSED security system

That's correct, and should be investigated, but if there are any other
rules that allow this link, then

VMSECURE QRULES JHUG LINK MAINT 123

should not tell you that the LINK would be rejected via NORULE DEFAULT.

I agree, but if it says that the link would be rejected, then it should be 
rejected. Something is very wrong somewhere.

I see one possible scenario:

1. 'CPACTION * ACCEPT' record in VMXRPI CONFIG (used to generate HCPRPx 
modules) telling CP to allow everything if the rules facility is not running and
2. Rules facility is not running.

If rules are not running, would QRULES command tell you that? Or would it just 
check the rules database?

I would:

1. Run VMSECURE QCPCFG from authorised user (VMRMAINT should be) to verify all 
CPACTION settings in the currently running CP.
2. Check that VMSECURE userid's directory entry has IUCV *RPI MSGLIMIT 65535
3. Check the VMSECURE console messages and make sure that rules facility 
initialises correctly.
4. Run VMSECURE RULEMAP USER <userid> to display all rules that apply to that 
userid. Run other RULEMAP commands
5. Check all system, group, and user rule files to know what should be 
happening.
6. Call CA support.

Ivica

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