>From memory and a study I did 20+ years ago, channel utilization above
30-35 percent is a problem. Keep in mind that was with old fashioned
spinning dasd on block mpx channels, but it may still apply. Channel
service time increased very gradually up to about 30-35%. There was an
exponential curve that tracked service time with the bend in the curve
at 30-35% channel utilization. Beyond that point, service time grew very
quickly. You may be seeing the same problem with your channel busy time
at 50-70%.

Jim Bohnsack

On 5/17/2010 10:49 PM, TaeMin Baek wrote:
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> The change is that we add xstor 1GB and the others are same. 
> we reduced the number of ESCON Channel from 16 to 8 and now channel busy 
> is around 50%~70%.
>
> We are sharing DASD among 5 OS/390 Virtual Machines by Using Virtual 
> Reserve/Release(MWV Option for MDISK) with SET SHARED ON option in SYSTEM 
> CONFIG.
> I read 'CP pllaning and admin guide and it says like the below.
>
> *When to Use Concurrent Virtual and Real Reserve/Release 
> In general, you should use concurrent virtual and real reserve/release 
> when you need to share DASD among many virtual machines and other systems. 
> Do not use this method when you need to share DASD only among virtual 
> machines, because the CP overhead is much greater than if you use virtual 
> reserve/release. 
>
> If I changed the option to 'SET SHARED OFF', can it reduce CP overhead 
> between VM Guest OS?
> and is it safe to change this option by SET command while system is 
> running?
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Tae Min Baek
>  Mmaa Bldg, 467-12 Dogok-Dong
>
> Advisory IT Architect
>  Seoul, 135700
> z/Linux Team
>  Korea
> IBM Sales & Distribution, STG Sales
>  
>
> Phone:
> +822-3781-8224
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>
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> e-mail:
> tmb...@kr.ibm.com
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>
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>
>
> From:   Marcy Cortes <marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com>
> To:     IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Date:   2010-05-18 오전 09:13
> Subject:        Re: Batch job takes too long in OS/390 Guest under z/VM 
> v6.1
> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
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>
>
> What changes were made to your memory config?  xstor, cstor, mdc size ?
> Any changes to the I/O configuration?
>
>
> Marcy 
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> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
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> Subject: [IBMVM] Batch job takes too long in OS/390 Guest under z/VM v6.1
>
>
> We migrate three OS/390 system from 2064-2C1 running on native LPAR mode 
> to 2098-T01 running 
> under z/VM like the below.
>  
> HW: z10 BC- 2098 T01 (GCP 1 EA)
> OS: z/VM V6.1
> Guest OS: Four OS/390 v2.10 (SE02, SE05, SE06, CF) running under z/VM
>  
> 1) Between three OS/390 guests share many DASD which are defined by 
> full-pack minidisk in CP 
> directory.
> 2) three OS/390 guests share the DASD using GRS. MIM is used before 
> migration
> 3) three OS/390 guests are coupled by Sysplex(VCFLINK under z/VM) thru CF 
> guest
> 4) Sysplex(XCF) is used for only GRS and Tape sharing. MIA is used before 
> migration
> 5) GRS was not used befor migration
>  
> * Problem Symptom
>   => During night time, batch job workload on SE02 was taking too long and 
> SE02 Guest system 
> has high CPU usage(Specially Supervisor CPU% is high around 32% and 
> Emulated CPU% is 35%) and I/O wait(12%) by performance toolkit.
>   => By monitoring in OS/390(SE02), CPU Usage of MASTER, GRS, CATALOG task 
> is high. therefore batch job is hard to get CPU resource.
>   => CF Guest user has only 1% of CPU utilization.
>   => batch job use DASD and Tape devices.
>
> could it be caused by VM side or OS/390? 
> What do we need to check more to find what is root cause and to fix this 
> problem?
>
>
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> <font size=2 face="sans-serif">The change is that we add xstor 1GB and
> the others are same. </font>
> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">we reduced the number of ESCON Channel
> from 16 to 8 and now channel busy is around 50%~70%.</font>
> <br>
> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">We are sharing DASD among 5 OS/390 Virtual
> Machines by Using Virtual Reserve/Release(MWV Option for MDISK) with SET
> SHARED ON option in SYSTEM CONFIG.</font>
> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I read 'CP pllaning and admin guide
> and it says like the below.</font>
> <br>
> <br><font size=4><b>*When to Use Concurrent Virtual and Real Reserve/Release
> </b></font>
> <br><font size=2>In general, you should use concurrent virtual and real
> reserve/release when you need to share DASD among many virtual machines
> and other systems. Do not use this method when you need to share DASD only
> among virtual machines, because the CP overhead is much greater than if
> you use virtual reserve/release. </font>
> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
> If I changed the option to 'SET SHARED OFF', can it reduce CP overhead
> between VM Guest OS?</font>
> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">and is it safe to change this option
> by SET command while system is running?</font>
> <br>
> <br><font size=2 face="Arial">Regards</font>
> <br>
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> <td colspan=2><font size=1 face="Arial"><b>Tae Min Baek</b></font>
> <td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial">&nbsp;Mmaa Bldg, 467-12 
> Dogok-Dong</font>
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> <td colspan=2><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial">Advisory IT 
> Architect</font>
> <td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial">&nbsp;Seoul, 135700</font>
> <tr>
> <td colspan=2><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial">z/Linux Team</font>
> <td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial">&nbsp;Korea</font>
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> Distribution,
> STG Sales</font>
> <td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial">&nbsp;</font>
> <td>
> <tr>
> <td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial">Phone:</font>
> <td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial">+822-3781-8224</font>
> <td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial">&nbsp; </font>
> <td>
> <tr>
> <td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial">Mobile:</font>
> <td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial">+82-010-4995-8224</font>
> <td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial">&nbsp; </font>
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> <td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial">e-mail:</font>
> <td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial">tmb...@kr.ibm.com</font>
> <td><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="Arial">&nbsp; </font>
> <td></table>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">From: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
> &nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Marcy Cortes 
> &lt;marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com&gt;</font>
> <br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">To: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
> &nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU</font>
> <br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Date: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
> &nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">2010-05-18 오전 09:13</font>
> <br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Subject: &nbsp; &nbsp;
> &nbsp; &nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Re: Batch job
> takes too long in OS/390 Guest under z/VM v6.1</font>
> <br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Sent by: &nbsp; &nbsp;
> &nbsp; &nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">The IBM z/VM
> Operating System &lt;IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU&gt;</font>
> <br>
> <hr noshade>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br><tt><font size=2>What changes were made to your memory config? 
> &nbsp;xstor,
> cstor, mdc size ?<br>
> Any changes to the I/O configuration?<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Marcy <br>
> <br>
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> On Behalf Of TaeMin Baek<br>
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 3:22 PM<br>
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU<br>
> Subject: [IBMVM] Batch job takes too long in OS/390 Guest under z/VM v6.1<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> We migrate three OS/390 system from 2064-2C1 running on native LPAR mode
> to 2098-T01 running <br>
> under z/VM like the below.<br>
>  <br>
> HW: z10 BC- 2098 T01 (GCP 1 EA)<br>
> OS: z/VM V6.1<br>
> Guest OS: Four OS/390 v2.10 (SE02, SE05, SE06, CF) running under z/VM<br>
>  <br>
> 1) Between three OS/390 guests share many DASD which are defined by full-pack
> minidisk in CP <br>
> directory.<br>
> 2) three OS/390 guests share the DASD using GRS. MIM is used before 
> migration<br>
> 3) three OS/390 guests are coupled by Sysplex(VCFLINK under z/VM) thru
> CF guest<br>
> 4) Sysplex(XCF) is used for only GRS and Tape sharing. MIA is used before
> migration<br>
> 5) GRS was not used befor migration<br>
>  <br>
> * Problem Symptom<br>
>  &nbsp;=&gt; During night time, batch job workload on SE02 was taking too
> long and SE02 Guest system <br>
> has high CPU usage(Specially Supervisor CPU% is high around 32% and Emulated
> CPU% is 35%) and I/O wait(12%) by performance toolkit.<br>
>  &nbsp;=&gt; By monitoring in OS/390(SE02), CPU Usage of MASTER, GRS, CATALOG
> task is high. therefore batch job is hard to get CPU resource.<br>
>  &nbsp;=&gt; CF Guest user has only 1% of CPU utilization.<br>
>  &nbsp;=&gt; batch job use DASD and Tape devices.<br>
> <br>
> could it be caused by VM side or OS/390? <br>
> What do we need to check more to find what is root cause and to fix this
> problem?<br>
> </font></tt>
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