I think the "cms java performed very poorly" could be revisited. back then, the mainframe was at most 400Mhz? or less? of course it performed poorly. so now the processors have caught up and surpassed and are about an order of magnitude faster. This had nothing to do with software, this was a hardware problem that was very poorly understood. As i've said before, way back then we thought the mainframe was big and fast, and we were half right.

Alan Ackerman wrote:
Unfortunately, CMS Java performed very poorly so I would not recommend try to find a copy. I think people waited for IBM to fix the Java performance, and IBM waited for customers to use it, and eventually it went away. I do not remember any screaming on this list when the removal was first announced. I was hoping we would get Java Servlets, but I never heard of any web server vendor offering to support them.

And no, I didn't open a PMR on the poor performance. I wish that I had. Did 
anyone?

In any case, this is only one of the many ways IBM (and vendors) have not continued to provide modern application function for CMS. (XML, web services, etc.) It breaks my heart, but I have to recommend people use Linux instead of CMS. Without vendor interest I cannot recommend CMS for any new function. Old applications will continue to run, as IBM is still supporting most CMS functions. At our shop, when they seek to add new functions (I wanted to add web services) they have to convert off of CMS. Unfortunately, that means converting off of System z here. I'm trying to reverse that by working on z/Linux Support, but it's too late for all but a few of our CMS applications.
Alan Ackerman, Bank of America.com


On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:02:32 -0400, Michael Donovan <dono...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

There was a Java port for CMS, in days long gone.   It was withdrawn from
the product and the web pages were removed after z/VM 4.4.0.  If you had
installed the Developer Release 1.1.6 on a system prior to that and
migrated that  Byte File System forward,  you could continue to use it on
newer z/VM releases, even though it is no longer supported.




From: Dave Jones <d...@vsoft-software.com> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 09/27/2010 10:56 AM Subject: Re: Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS? Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>




Yes, there is, but it's very old, and certainly out of date. You might
try logging onto the z/VM home page and searching for "IBM® JavaTM Port
for VM/ESA, Developer Release 1.1.6".

Good luck.
On 09/27/2010 09:50 AM, Michel Beaulieu wrote:
Hello,



I want to share JAVA code between platforms.



Is there a JAVA implementation for CMS?



Thanks,



Michel Beaulieu

Montreal, Canada

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