George,

I don't know of any way that a virtual (or real) CF would even see any 
3270 data streams, much less alter them. 
OTOH, I don't really know much out CFs.

Could you help us out with a little more environmental detail? 
1) Is this pure VTAM SNA (on both z/OS and z/VM), or is it VTAM 
encapsulated by TCPIP?
2) Have you examined the LOGMODE for the affected terminals?  I remember 
doing just as Kris mentioned back in the 1980's.
3) Do you have any terminals connecting to VM that *do* work successfully 
with extended attributes? 
4) What appears as MODETAB and DLOGMOD when you issue from your VM system, 
the VTAM command: D NET,ID=luname,E
    where luname is your luname, and perhaps another display from one 
where extended attributes are displayed?

Mike Walter
Aon Corporation
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.




"George Henke/NYLIC" <george_he...@newyorklife.com> 

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Our Supersession boys swear it is not Superseesion. 

Could it be the Coupling Facility Service Machine doing it? 


SPECIAL 420 MSGP CFSRV04 
SPECIAL 424 MSGP CFSRV01 
SPECIAL 428 MSGP CFSRV05     

USER CFSRV04 CFSRV04 256M 2G G 
XAUTOLOG CFCONSOL SY79TEST SY80TEST                       
*LA= 02:31:12 EST Sunday 10/31/99 by AUTOLOG1             
OPTION CFVM TODENABLE QUICKDSP 
*ED= 99/10/31 09:30:39 VMRMAINT FEN00030 98/09/24         
*PW= 
*SP= GENERAL PROFILE 
*NM= * COUPLING FACILITY SERVICE MACHINE 4 
*FL= N 
ACCOUNT 33141 ROOM-XXX 
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A general rule of z/VM is that it will never change the type of a device, 
so DIAL will not change the 3270 characteristics (even though after DIAL 
it will appear as a local non SNA 3270)

After you DIAL to z/OS, your 3270 gets another address.  You need to find 
the definition of that address in VTAM, a local non-SNA 3270 will it be. 
But, that has a logmode too, and I guess the logmode currently associated 
to that address defines a realy dumb 3270.

In a previous life, I instructed my students of the VM/VTAM course to turn 
on the "query" bit in the PSERVIC:
     PSERVIC=X'028000000000000000000300' 

2010/12/28 George Henke/NYLIC <george_he...@newyorklife.com> 
How do I stop DIAL from turning off the Extended Data Stream (EDS) 
terminal attribute? 

I have NSX32702 Logmode (NSX means Non-SNA EDS) before dialing my z/OS 
guest. 

The ISPF ENVIRON TERMSTAT Query on native  z/OS shows: 

ISPF TERMINAL CHARACTERISTICS                 
14 BIT ADDRESSING    = ON                     
16 BIT ADDRESSING    = OFF                   
EXTENDED COLOR       = ON                     
EXTENDED HIGHLITING  = ON                     

After dialing the z/OS guest with the same Logmode the z/OS ISPF ENVIRON 
TERMSTAT Query shows: 

ISPF TERMINAL CHARACTERISTICS                       
14 BIT ADDRESSING    = OFF                         
16 BIT ADDRESSING    = OFF                         
EXTENDED COLOR       = OFF 
EXTENDED HIGHLITING  = OFF                         
DBCS                 = OFF                         


DBCS                 = OFF                   



-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support 




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