If you are coming from an MP/3000 are you considering a z10-BC? If you are, you should still be able to get a z10-BC box from IBM. At this time there is not a "BC" version of the z196. We are getting a z10-BC to replace a z9-BC.
Paul Feller AIT Mainframe Technical Support -----Original Message----- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 10:12 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/196 and older Operating Systems Per the IBM documentation, the z/196 requires z/VSE 4.1 or above, z/VM 5.4 or above and Suse 10 or above. Of course, as those products are the only supported products available. So, did the z/196 break older operating systems? I don't care that the older ones can't use newer facilities. (The z boxes came with dual channel sets which "broke" unsupported OS versions until "migration" PTFs became available. For example, at one site, I have z/VSE 3.1.0 running. We were planning on upgrading from a MP/3000 to a new box. My conversion process was to run z/VSE 3.1.0 on the new box in a LPAR, and bring up z/VSE 4.3 on another LPAR for conversion. The Business Partner is suggesting a z/10, but that was 4 months ago. I don't know if the z/196 was available at that time or not. I believe that the z/10 isn't in new production, so a z/10 would be used. Hence we pay for shipping, installation, site prep, no warranty, etc. which isn't in the proposal from the Business Partner. I don't think we get a migration discount either, but would enjoy the pricing point for z/VSE 4. Thanks Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting (trying to keep from making a "crap" proposal <G>)
