>>>> i think for the sake of really trying to help the horses and not point 
>>>> fingers and not take up for people just cause we admire them etc, lets 
>>>> just take Gudmar's name out of it and just look at these pictures, at the 
>>>> riders, the nosebands etc.  I mean, is there room for improvement or 
>>>> not...  Janice

Good idea, Janice.  I shouldn't have taken Vicka's question literally.  There 
are a couple of hundred pictures in the link I sent, and he's not the only 
rider in the set.  I don't even know who a couple of the riders are.  Just look 
at the pictures... 

Karen Thomas, NC




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