In a message dated 8/1/2007 7:58:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Janice, Last week saw a Hilason really cheap and I bought it off Ebay. It came yesterday and appears to be a nice fit for my wide backed no withers pony. It was $225. brand new with tags size 15 endurance like the BMS, but I could not afford one of those. I put it on my pony yesterday and sat on him. He is not broke to ride yet. The problem is that it cost as much to buy the chinch and pad as it did the saddle. I had to get a dressage chinch size 22 inch for $100.00 and the nonslip pad is costing me close to that. The saddle is 23" front to rear so it solves the short back problem. For what I will have paid for the whole package it would have been wise for me to wait and buy a used BMS with the chinch and pad. Hilason runs smaller than western and they tell you that up front. Sylvia
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