pilihannya khan selalu ada disitu .. gak pernah hilang ..

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Eko Prasetiyo <ekopraset...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Formatnya ya seperti format biasalah. Di menu setting storage. Tinggal
> dari google/vendor mau implementasikan atau ga.
>
> Yg penting user diberi pilihan utk menggunakan extsdcard ato ga. Bkn dgn
> memaksa menghilangkan opsi itu. Toh dgn pilihan itu kan tinggal dijelaskan
> plus minusnya aj. Jd user jg bertambah kan ilmunya.
> On May 14, 2013 5:25 PM, "Amer" <a...@id-anime.info> wrote:
>
>> Jangankan user awam seperti yg om Arianto bilang. Saya aja yg walau bukan
>> advance user tapi masih tergolong  nubie ini masih mau bertanya ke om, cara
>> format nya gimana?
>>
>> Maunya apa yg ada di hh itu ready to use tanpa harus di siapkan atau
>> disetting terlebih dahulu.
>>
>> Kalau gak salah dulu orang Google udah jawab juga salah satu alasannya
>> (seingat saya) yaitu supaya gak "membingungkan", contoh yg saya ingat
>> misalnya kalau ada internal dan external app mau diinstall itu ke mana?
>> Data yg disimpan ke mana? Foto disimpan ke mana?
>>
>> Masalah speed juga berasa kok, saya dua kali pake hh ber external storage
>> bisa merasakan peningkatan di hh tanpa external storage.
>>
>> Dan semua ini debatable, di tret yg lama juga jadi panjang kok ;D
>>
>> ▒ Android 4.2.2 @ Google neXus4™ ▒
>> On May 14, 2013 4:55 PM, "Eko Prasetiyo" <ekopraset...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Kan masalah expandable storage kan? Tinggal colok sdcard ke handset lalu
>>> format pke ext3/4 dan semua permission sprti yg disebut di artikel akan
>>> didapat & handsetnya udh pasti bisa baca ext3/4 kan?. Klo mo colok hanset
>>> ke pc nanti akan kebaca via mtp.klo mo baca pke card reader tinggal cari
>>> apps buat baca partisi ext3/4 nya. Tinggal di buat tutorialnya aj ama
>>> google klo emg niat. Apa susahnya?
>>> On May 14, 2013 4:41 PM, "Arianto C Nugroho" <arianto.nugr...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> waks .. repot banget om .. user awam akan kesulitan kalau disuruh
>>>> melakukan itu ..
>>>>
>>>> yang jelas sih masalah konsistensi aja .. data dan apps akan selalu
>>>> tersedia di HP mau bagaimanapun kondisi si HP ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Eko Prasetiyo <ekopraset...@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ga valid jg sih alesan klo pke sdcard jd ga bisa pke ext3/ext4. Sdcard
>>>>> bisa aj diformat pke filesystem sesuai kebutuhan. Apa krn windows by
>>>>> default ga bisa baca ext3/4 ? Apps 3rd party supaya windows bisa ext3/4 
>>>>> kan
>>>>> ada. Ato pke linux sekalian.
>>>>>  On May 14, 2013 4:14 PM, "Ricky rQ" <rickygam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Internet is hard at work debating the merits of the Nexus 
>>>>>> 7<http://androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7> tablet,
>>>>>> and the biggest arguments are about the lack of expandable storage, or an
>>>>>> SD card, as you likely know it. It seems like everyone and their brother
>>>>>> has a theory about why the hottest tablet to hit Android so far will be
>>>>>> shipping without one. The most popular reason revolves around some
>>>>>> conspiracy that Google is to forcing you to use its cloud services. While
>>>>>> I'm sure Google would love nothing more than users depending on Google
>>>>>> Drive or Google Music -- and there's certainly a big push for it -- 
>>>>>> that's
>>>>>> not the reason devices have been trending away from expandable storage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wanna know what it really is? Sure you do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The lack of an SD card in Nexus devices is nothing new, and we've
>>>>>> been over this issue already when the Galaxy 
>>>>>> Nexus<http://www.androidcentral.com/tags/galaxy-nexus> first
>>>>>> appeared.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We got tired of seeing OEMs include many GB of internal storage for
>>>>>> music, while users were still running out of space for apps and data. 
>>>>>> This
>>>>>> approach lets us merge everything on one volume, which is way better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Dan Morrill, Android engineer at Google
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Google still supports removable storage in Android, but it is leading
>>>>>> by example and providing phones (and now a tablet) with one big block of
>>>>>> storage that users can use for anything they like -- be it media,
>>>>>> documents, or apps. There are a couple of side benefits to this approach 
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> well. The first one is a bit geeky -- it allows the device to use ext 
>>>>>> file
>>>>>> systems instead of a mix of ext and FAT. This is faster and safer -- both
>>>>>> for the data on the device and the way it's handled, and access to our 
>>>>>> own
>>>>>> personal data. A journalized file system means fewer file errors, and ext
>>>>>> preserves file system permissions so random code can't find your pictures
>>>>>> or documents folder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another benefit is that the host machine (when your device is
>>>>>> connected to a computer) can't muck things up and molest the file system,
>>>>>> as it doesn't have block-level access to the files. Instead, a proxyFUSE
>>>>>> (*F*ilesystem in *Use*rspace) file system<http://fuse.sourceforge.net/> 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> used to mount a psuedo-SD card folder so that your computer can read and
>>>>>> write to it via 
>>>>>> MTP<http://www.androidcentral.com/ics-feature-mtp-what-it-why-use-it-and-how-set-it>.
>>>>>> This means you won't get errors from incorrectly unmounting your phone, 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the device still has access to all the data even while plugged into a PC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does Google want you to use Google 
>>>>>> Play<http://www.androidcentral.com/tags/google-play> and
>>>>>> its cloud services? Of course it does. But there is no secret evil cabal 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Mountain View that held back the SD card slot to force it on you. In 
>>>>>> fact,
>>>>>> you're still free to use other cloud solutions like Amazon, Dropbox, or
>>>>>> even a shared drive on your desktop PC. Nobody has to like the fact that
>>>>>> Nexus devices ship with no SD card slot, but let's stop looking for
>>>>>> conspiracies when we already know the answer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SUmber: androidcentral
>>>>>>
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