16Gb tanpa sdcard jelas kurang. 16Gb dengan sdcard baru cukup. apalagi kalo maniak games. cloud? masih susah untuk Indonesia. saya pake cloud cuma untuk file2 foto
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Darma Suyoga < darma78.milisandr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Konsekuensi internal memory besar itu ke harga...... cmiiw > > Smartphone Android yang berinternal memory 32GB kelas premium > semua...jarang pula. > > Dan terkadang memory internal 16GB terasa kurang ....coba saja tanya yang > pake S4 :) > > sent from Note > •••••••••••••••••••••••••• > bukakotak.com > On May 14, 2013 6:42 PM, "Arianto C Nugroho" <arianto.nugr...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> pilihannya khan selalu ada disitu .. gak pernah hilang .. >> >> >> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Eko Prasetiyo <ekopraset...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Formatnya ya seperti format biasalah. Di menu setting storage. Tinggal >>> dari google/vendor mau implementasikan atau ga. >>> >>> Yg penting user diberi pilihan utk menggunakan extsdcard ato ga. Bkn dgn >>> memaksa menghilangkan opsi itu. Toh dgn pilihan itu kan tinggal dijelaskan >>> plus minusnya aj. Jd user jg bertambah kan ilmunya. >>> On May 14, 2013 5:25 PM, "Amer" <a...@id-anime.info> wrote: >>> >>>> Jangankan user awam seperti yg om Arianto bilang. Saya aja yg walau >>>> bukan advance user tapi masih tergolong nubie ini masih mau bertanya ke >>>> om, cara format nya gimana? >>>> >>>> Maunya apa yg ada di hh itu ready to use tanpa harus di siapkan atau >>>> disetting terlebih dahulu. >>>> >>>> Kalau gak salah dulu orang Google udah jawab juga salah satu alasannya >>>> (seingat saya) yaitu supaya gak "membingungkan", contoh yg saya ingat >>>> misalnya kalau ada internal dan external app mau diinstall itu ke mana? >>>> Data yg disimpan ke mana? Foto disimpan ke mana? >>>> >>>> Masalah speed juga berasa kok, saya dua kali pake hh ber external >>>> storage bisa merasakan peningkatan di hh tanpa external storage. >>>> >>>> Dan semua ini debatable, di tret yg lama juga jadi panjang kok ;D >>>> >>>> ▒ Android 4.2.2 @ Google neXus4™ ▒ >>>> On May 14, 2013 4:55 PM, "Eko Prasetiyo" <ekopraset...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Kan masalah expandable storage kan? Tinggal colok sdcard ke handset >>>>> lalu format pke ext3/4 dan semua permission sprti yg disebut di artikel >>>>> akan didapat & handsetnya udh pasti bisa baca ext3/4 kan?. Klo mo colok >>>>> hanset ke pc nanti akan kebaca via mtp.klo mo baca pke card reader tinggal >>>>> cari apps buat baca partisi ext3/4 nya. Tinggal di buat tutorialnya aj ama >>>>> google klo emg niat. Apa susahnya? >>>>> On May 14, 2013 4:41 PM, "Arianto C Nugroho" < >>>>> arianto.nugr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> waks .. repot banget om .. user awam akan kesulitan kalau disuruh >>>>>> melakukan itu .. >>>>>> >>>>>> yang jelas sih masalah konsistensi aja .. data dan apps akan selalu >>>>>> tersedia di HP mau bagaimanapun kondisi si HP .. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Eko Prasetiyo < >>>>>> ekopraset...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ga valid jg sih alesan klo pke sdcard jd ga bisa pke ext3/ext4. >>>>>>> Sdcard bisa aj diformat pke filesystem sesuai kebutuhan. Apa krn >>>>>>> windows by >>>>>>> default ga bisa baca ext3/4 ? Apps 3rd party supaya windows bisa ext3/4 >>>>>>> kan >>>>>>> ada. Ato pke linux sekalian. >>>>>>> On May 14, 2013 4:14 PM, "Ricky rQ" <rickygam...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Internet is hard at work debating the merits of the Nexus >>>>>>>> 7<http://androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7> tablet, >>>>>>>> and the biggest arguments are about the lack of expandable storage, or >>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>> SD card, as you likely know it. It seems like everyone and their >>>>>>>> brother >>>>>>>> has a theory about why the hottest tablet to hit Android so far will be >>>>>>>> shipping without one. The most popular reason revolves around some >>>>>>>> conspiracy that Google is to forcing you to use its cloud services. >>>>>>>> While >>>>>>>> I'm sure Google would love nothing more than users depending on Google >>>>>>>> Drive or Google Music -- and there's certainly a big push for it -- >>>>>>>> that's >>>>>>>> not the reason devices have been trending away from expandable storage. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wanna know what it really is? Sure you do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The lack of an SD card in Nexus devices is nothing new, and we've >>>>>>>> been over this issue already when the Galaxy >>>>>>>> Nexus<http://www.androidcentral.com/tags/galaxy-nexus> first >>>>>>>> appeared. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We got tired of seeing OEMs include many GB of internal storage for >>>>>>>> music, while users were still running out of space for apps and data. >>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>> approach lets us merge everything on one volume, which is way better. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- Dan Morrill, Android engineer at Google >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Google still supports removable storage in Android, but it is >>>>>>>> leading by example and providing phones (and now a tablet) with one big >>>>>>>> block of storage that users can use for anything they like -- be it >>>>>>>> media, >>>>>>>> documents, or apps. There are a couple of side benefits to this >>>>>>>> approach as >>>>>>>> well. The first one is a bit geeky -- it allows the device to use ext >>>>>>>> file >>>>>>>> systems instead of a mix of ext and FAT. This is faster and safer -- >>>>>>>> both >>>>>>>> for the data on the device and the way it's handled, and access to our >>>>>>>> own >>>>>>>> personal data. A journalized file system means fewer file errors, and >>>>>>>> ext >>>>>>>> preserves file system permissions so random code can't find your >>>>>>>> pictures >>>>>>>> or documents folder. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Another benefit is that the host machine (when your device is >>>>>>>> connected to a computer) can't muck things up and molest the file >>>>>>>> system, >>>>>>>> as it doesn't have block-level access to the files. Instead, a >>>>>>>> proxyFUSE >>>>>>>> (*F*ilesystem in *Use*rspace) file >>>>>>>> system<http://fuse.sourceforge.net/> is >>>>>>>> used to mount a psuedo-SD card folder so that your computer can read >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> write to it via >>>>>>>> MTP<http://www.androidcentral.com/ics-feature-mtp-what-it-why-use-it-and-how-set-it>. >>>>>>>> This means you won't get errors from incorrectly unmounting your >>>>>>>> phone, and >>>>>>>> the device still has access to all the data even while plugged into a >>>>>>>> PC. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does Google want you to use Google >>>>>>>> Play<http://www.androidcentral.com/tags/google-play> and >>>>>>>> its cloud services? Of course it does. But there is no secret evil >>>>>>>> cabal in >>>>>>>> Mountain View that held back the SD card slot to force it on you. In >>>>>>>> fact, >>>>>>>> you're still free to use other cloud solutions like Amazon, Dropbox, or >>>>>>>> even a shared drive on your desktop PC. Nobody has to like the fact >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> Nexus devices ship with no SD card slot, but let's stop looking for >>>>>>>> conspiracies when we already know the answer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> SUmber: androidcentral >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ayo ikutan kompetisi foto di Indosat Smartphone Photography >>>>>>>> Festival 2013 >>>>>>>> Info: http://smartphonephotography.indosatmentari.com >>>>>>>> --------------------- >>>>>>>> ID-Android on YouTube >>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A >>>>>>>> -------------------- >>>>>>>> Web Hosting, Zimbra Mail Server, VPS gratis Raspberry Pi : >>>>>>>> http://www.hostune.com >>>>>>>> -------------------- >>>>>>>> Aturan Umum ID-Android: http://goo.gl/MpVq8 >>>>>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID: http://forum.android.or.id >>>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android] >>>>>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google. >>>>>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup >>>>>>>> ini, kirim email ke id-android+berhenti >>>>>>>> berlangga...@googlegroups.com . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ayo ikutan kompetisi foto di Indosat Smartphone Photography Festival >>>>>>> 2013 >>>>>>> Info: http://smartphonephotography.indosatmentari.com >>>>>>> --------------------- >>>>>>> ID-Android on YouTube >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A >>>>>>> -------------------- >>>>>>> Web Hosting, Zimbra Mail Server, VPS gratis Raspberry Pi : >>>>>>> http://www.hostune.com >>>>>>> -------------------- >>>>>>> Aturan Umum ID-Android: http://goo.gl/MpVq8 >>>>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID: http://forum.android.or.id >>>>>>> ========== >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android] >>>>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google. >>>>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup >>>>>>> ini, kirim email ke id-android+berhenti >>>>>>> berlangga...@googlegroups.com . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Best Regards >>>>>> Arianto C Nugroho >>>>>> http://id.linkedin.com/in/ariantonugroho >>>>>> skype-id : nugroho.arianto >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ========== >>>>>> >>>>>> Ayo ikutan kompetisi foto di Indosat Smartphone Photography Festival >>>>>> 2013 >>>>>> Info: http://smartphonephotography.indosatmentari.com >>>>>> --------------------- >>>>>> ID-Android on YouTube >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A >>>>>> -------------------- >>>>>> Web Hosting, Zimbra Mail Server, VPS gratis Raspberry Pi : >>>>>> http://www.hostune.com >>>>>> -------------------- >>>>>> Aturan Umum ID-Android: http://goo.gl/MpVq8 >>>>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID: http://forum.android.or.id >>>>>> ========== >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android] >>>>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup 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