Indonesia emang blm melek IT kok.
 On May 17, 2013 5:06 PM, "Hary" <android.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wah ... Indonesia belum melek IT donk :)****
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> Kalau ngomongin market share, yang sering jadi sumber data adalah report
> dari IDC  dan Gartner.****
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> Mobile phone market share: *More Smartphones Were Shipped in Q1 2013 Than
> Feature Phones, An Industry First According to IDC*****
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> http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24085413****
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> Smartphone market share: *Android and iOS Combine for 92.3% of All
> Smartphone Operating System Shipments in the First Quarter While Windows
> Phone Leapfrogs BlackBerry, According to IDC*****
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> http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24108913****
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> Android maker profitability: *95 Percent of Q1 Android Smartphone Profits
> Went to Samsung (data dari Gartner)*****
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> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2419023,00.asp****
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> Facts must be separated from opinion.
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>   *From: *Harry Hakadinata
> *Sent: *Friday, May 17, 2013 05:03
> *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
> *Reply To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI: BBM going to Android version 4 and up
> dan iOS 6
>
> Yang di maksud luar negri itu , negara yg melek IT. E.g : singapore, usa,
> china dll
> Setahu saya UK itu share market BB tinggal 5% an... Link :
> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Blackberry-Market-Share-z10-uk-market-share,21799.html
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> Negara developing saja yg masih survive memakai BB.
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> Yang untung secara riil itu bukan samsung aja, coba liat produsen mobile
> di china... Semua untung berkat adanya android...
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> CMIIW
>  On May 16, 2013 5:32 PM, "Hary" <android.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Saya pakai BB, android, iOS dan senang dengan adanya pilihan. Sebagai
>> konsumen, lebih banyak pilihan yang baik semakin bagus. Kompetisi
>> menumbuhkan inovasi. Faktanya BlackBerry dibilang mau bangkrut sejak 2-3
>> tahun yang lalu. They are still around sampai sekarang.
>>
>> Ngomong2 yang dimaksud dengan luar negeri itu di mana? Di UK, middle
>> east, south america, afrika, BlackBerry masih lumayan market nya. Di
>> thailand, vietnam, filipina juga masih banyak penggunanya.
>>
>> Time will tell BlackBerry akan survive atau tidak. Perlu diingat juga
>> bahwa produsen handset android yang untung secara riil baru samsung. Yang
>> lain net loss atau tertatih-tatih atau mulai bangkit seperti sony. Dan kita
>> tentunya tidak ingin handset maker bagus seperti Sony Mobile hilang dari
>> pasar.
>>
>> Prediksi saya, setelah membuka BBM, BlackBerry akan membuka lisensi OS10
>> nya.
>>
>> We'll see.....
>>
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>>    *From: *Harry Hakadinata
>> *Sent: *Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:50
>> *To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>> *Reply To: *id-android@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI: BBM going to Android version 4 and up
>> dan iOS 6
>>
>> Inilah yg tidak di sadari kita semua org Indonesia / yang berada di
>> Indonesia. Konsumen Blackberry  terbanyak itu di Indonesia! Jika anda ke
>> luar negri ..gak ada yg pakai bb lagi.
>>
>> Adalah fakta bahwa RIM/ blackberry (now) itu adalah perusahaan yg mau
>> bangkrut. Di dunia usernya gak ada. Jadi akhirnya mereka membuka diri masuk
>> ke dalam platform no 1 / 2 di dunia yaitu iOS dan Android. Walau dinilai
>> udah terlambat. Fokus mereka ke hardware division dianggap salah strategy.
>> Bahkan CEO Yahoo bilang BB itu bukan smartphone!! Wkwkwkkw.....
>>
>> Kalau gak salah line/kakao talk /whatsapp aja jumlah usernya melebihi
>> bbm.! Jadi yah serba susah dan telat sih ..... Tinggal menunggu waktu aja
>> kalau menurut saya BB itu.. Karena even usaha terakhir mereka melalui
>> device baru Z10 Etc.. Gagal. Terlihat dr harga saham mereka yg semangkin
>> terpuruk. Pasar tidak menerimanya.
>>
>> Just my 2 cent....
>>
>> Harry NTQ
>>  On May 15, 2013 2:40 PM, "Herman S" <daredevil.uni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sewaktu di awal baca berita ini, saya mengira alangkah bodohnya langkah
>>> RIM ini, masa iya salah satu fitur andalannya (kalau bukan yg paling utama)
>>> dishare. Kalau demikian nanti orang-orang akan beralih dong ke HH lain
>>> selain BB.
>>> Tapi kemudian, mungkinkah RIM memiliki strategi bisnis seperti WA? Pada
>>> awalnya mungkin aplikasi ini akan dibagikan gratis bagi para pengguna
>>> Android atau IOS. Tapi kemudian, akan menjadi berbayar setelah tahun ke-2
>>> (misalnya), dst.
>>> Kebayang kan berapa besarnya keuntungan seandainya sebagian besar dari
>>> milyaran pengguna Android menggunakan aplikasi ini? Belum lagi jumlah
>>> pengguna IOS?
>>>
>>> Tapi tetap saja, analisis akhir saya kemungkinan besar penjualan BB akan
>>> menurun drastis, mengingat price/performance BB yang sangat jelek (no
>>> offense, CMIIW, compare to Android misalnya). Apa iya RIM akan survive
>>> dengan hanya mengandalkan profit dari aplikasi ini?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Prayudi Aji Murtolo <
>>> pray.andro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We will see om
>>>>
>>>> barusan long distance call dengan seseorang di jauuuhhh
>>>>
>>>> Faham bener sekarang strategi nya BBRY
>>>>
>>>> Qeqeeqeqeqeq
>>>>
>>>> Setujuuuuuuu
>>>>
>>>> Bbm for iOS/Android
>>>>
>>>> We will see later
>>>>
>>>> *evilgrin
>>>>
>>>> japri : pray...@pwmjatim.com
>>>> temukan info baru di LHAINI.COM
>>>> On May 14, 2013 10:57 PM, "Hary" <android.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  BBM to go cross-platform this summer!!
>>>>> By Adam Zeis <http://m.crackberry.com/users/azeis> on 14 May 2013
>>>>> 10:59 am
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>>>>> Announced today during BlackBerry Live 
>>>>> 2013<http://www.crackberry.com/blackberry-live-2013>
>>>>> , BBM <http://www.crackberry.com/bbm> is set to go cross-platform
>>>>> this summer.  That means BlackBerry, iOS and Android users will able be
>>>>> able to chat seamlessly over BBM very soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cross-platform BBM is long overdue but is sure to make for plenty of
>>>>> happy BlackBerry in just a few months.
>>>>>
>>>>> The rollout will first include just chat, but soon to follow will be
>>>>> BBM Voice, BBM Video and even BBM Channels. Users on iOS and Android will
>>>>> get the same features of BBM that BlackBerry users already have so it
>>>>> should be pretty exciting. Best of all? It will still be totally free.
>>>>>
>>>>> Plenty more on this to come soon so stay tuned!
>>>>>
>>>>> *Press Release*
>>>>>
>>>>> *BBM for iOS and Android to Launch This Summer*
>>>>>
>>>>> WATERLOO, ONTARIO--(Marketwired - May 14, 2013) - BlackBerry® (NASDAQ:
>>>>> BBRY)(TSX: BB) today announced plans to make its ground-breaking mobile
>>>>> social network, BlackBerry® Messenger (BBM™), available to iOS® and
>>>>> Android™ users this summer, with support planned for iOS6, and Android 4.0
>>>>> (Ice Cream Sandwich) or higher, all subject to approval by the Apple App
>>>>> Store and Google Play. BBM sets the standard for mobile instant messaging
>>>>> with a fast, reliable, engaging experience that includes delivered and 
>>>>> read
>>>>> statuses, and personalized profiles and avatars. Upon release, BBM
>>>>> customers would be able to broaden their connections to include friends,
>>>>> family and colleagues on other mobile platforms.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the planned initial release, iOS and Android users would be able to
>>>>> experience the immediacy of BBM chats, including multi-person chats, as
>>>>> well as the ability to share photos and voice notes, and engage in BBM
>>>>> Groups, which allows BBM customers to create groups of up to 30 people.
>>>>>
>>>>> "For BlackBerry, messaging and collaboration are inseparable from the
>>>>> mobile experience, and the time is definitely right for BBM to become a
>>>>> multi-platform mobile service. BBM has always been one of the most 
>>>>> engaging
>>>>> services for BlackBerry customers, enabling them to easily connect while
>>>>> maintaining a valued level of personal privacy. We're excited to offer iOS
>>>>> and Android users the possibility to join the BBM community," said Andrew
>>>>> Bocking, Executive Vice President, Software Product Management and
>>>>> Ecosystem, at BlackBerry.
>>>>>
>>>>> BBM is loved by customers for its "D" and "R" statuses, which show up
>>>>> in chats to let people know with certainty that their message has been
>>>>> delivered and read. It provides customers with a high level of control and
>>>>> privacy over who they add to their contact list and how they engage with
>>>>> them, as invites are two-way opt-in. iOS and Android users would be able 
>>>>> to
>>>>> add their contacts through PIN, email, SMS or QR code scan, regardless of
>>>>> platform. Android users would also be able to connect using a compatible
>>>>> NFC-capable device.
>>>>>
>>>>> BBM has more than 60 million monthly active customers, with more than
>>>>> 51 million people using BBM an average of 90 minutes per day. BBM 
>>>>> customers
>>>>> collectively send and receive more than 10 billion messages each day,
>>>>> nearly twice as many messages per user per day as compared to other mobile
>>>>> messaging apps. Almost half of BBM messages are read within 20 seconds of
>>>>> being received; indicating how truly engaged BBM customers are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today, BlackBerry also announced BBM Channels, a new social engagement
>>>>> platform within BBM that will allow customers to connect with the
>>>>> businesses, brands, celebrities and groups they are passionate about.
>>>>> BlackBerry plans to add support for BBM Channels as well as voice and 
>>>>> video
>>>>> chatting for iOS and Android later this year, subject to approval by the
>>>>> Apple App Store and Google Play.
>>>>>
>>>>> If approved by Apple and Google, the BBM app will be available as a
>>>>> free download in the Apple® App Store(SM) and Google Play store. 
>>>>> Additional
>>>>> details about system requirements and availability will be announced 
>>>>> closer
>>>>> to the launch.
>>>>>
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