Michael Actually it appears draft-chuang-replay-resistant-arc is listed in the charter (I had to check for myself). We can have the larger ARC discussion but I'll want to talk to Murray and Laura on that also.
tim On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 2:27 PM Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> wrote: > > On 8/4/23 11:12 AM, Wei Chuang wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just wanted to mention two proposals for tolerating mailing list > > modifications as suggested in person IETF-117. They both use ARC > > headers as infrastructure, but go about tolerating mailing list > > modifications in different ways. > > 1) Disclose and reverse mailing list transforms so that we can > > authenticate those messages with the original DKIM signature: > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chuang-mailing-list-modifications/ > > 2) Replay-resistant-arc draft proposes authenticating a sender defined > > path from originating sender to receiver. It also has the sender > > specify the intended recipient to prevent replay amplification. It is > > insensitive to message body modifications: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chuang-replay-resistant-arc/ > > Both approaches do not require trusting results in > > ARC-Authentication-Results which has been a concern. Instead they > > provide signatures and values that a third party can independently and > > objectively verify. Discussion of these drafts belong on the DKIM > > list (ietf-dkim@ietf.org). Also just mentioning I've heard there are > > other interesting related drafts. > > > What does this have to do with the current charter? ARC is off-topic and > should be banned by the chairs. That is especially true since DKIM is a > full internet standard and ARC is an experiment with no supporting data > to show that it's done what it claims. > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-dkim mailing list > Ietf-dkim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-dkim >
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