It appears that Jim Fenton  <fen...@bluepopcorn.net> said:
>On 5 Feb 2024, at 14:02, Dave Crocker wrote:
>
>> On 2/5/2024 1:56 PM, Jim Fenton wrote:
>>> And you will also provide citations to refereed research about what you 
>>> just asserted as well, yes?
>>
>>
>> Ahh, you want me to prove the negative. That's not exactly how these things 
>> go.
>
>You said that the URL lock symbol failed. Asking for research to back that up 
>is not asking for you to
>prove the negative. I suspect there is research out there that backs up that 
>statement, and I’m just
>asking for the same amount of rigor that you are asking for.

In this case, Dave's right.  Here's a conference paper from Google saying that 
only 11% of users
understood what the lock meant.

https://research.google/pubs/it-builds-trust-with-the-customers-exploring-user-perceptions-of-the-padlock-icon-in-browser-ui/

The annual Usenix SOUPS conferences are full of papers about failed security 
UI.  Here's this year's.
Don't miss the one saying that Gmail's message origin indicator doesn't work, 

https://www.usenix.org/conference/soups2023/technical-sessions

R's,
John

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