[Speaking as just another participant, not the chair...]

On 11 Nov 2026, at 2:27, Richard Clayton wrote:

IMHO an unknown or unauthorized intermediary should not receive the same treatment as a gateway explicitly trusted by the sender or the recipient.

There is nothing in DKIM2 that requires you to accept email that you know to have been modified by an intermediary. However, many mailbox providers wish to do exactly that (because the Internet is full of intermediaries that alter messages). DKIM2 gives them considerable scope to build reputation systems to label intermediaries and types of modification. But we are not going to say that they are not allowed to accept particular types of email -- their systems, their rules.

I basically agree with both Pietro and Richard here: I suspect that in the end, common practice is going to be "If the change recipe only modified the Subject and added a minimal (amount TBD) to the end of the body, then by policy I'll accept the message without a change to the From. Otherwise, by policy I'm going to bounce it unless I have a pre-existing trust relationship with the intermediary who did it." This is why I think the who discussion of From alignment and donotmodify is really kind of moot and not worth mentioning in the spec: If the changes are deemed to be "minimal", then the end system is going to let it through, and if the changes are more than "minimal" (which would include absolutely any deletion of bits of the body) by an unknown intermediary, they'll be rejected, regardless of a donotmodify or canmodify flag.

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