> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:18:32 -0800
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org
> Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: ISSUE 1521 -- Limit the application of SSP to    
> unsigned messages
> 
> 
> 
> Stephen Farrell wrote:
> >>> 1521    Limit the application of SSP to unsigned messages    new dkim
> >>> Nobody    0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]    9 days ago        9 days ago    0
> >> 
> >>> Proposal: REJECT, but some wording changes may be needed for the next 
> >>> rev, thread is [4] I mainly saw opposition to the change suggested in
> >>> the issue, and little support, but some text clarifying changes were
> >>> suggested (e.g. [5]). [4]
> >>> http://mipassoc.org/pipermail/ietf-dkim/2007q4/008424.html [5]
> >>> http://mipassoc.org/pipermail/ietf-dkim/2007q4/008467.html
> > 
> >> Would you please explain the basis for assessing that this topic got 
> >> sufficient discussion and that there was rough consensus on it?
> > 
> > See above "I mainly saw..."
> 
> 
> Summary of proposal:
> 
> > All text that causes SSP to be applied to an already-signed message 
> > needs to be removed.
> 
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I've reviewed the thread that took place on this topic.  Here are summary 
> statistics:
> 
>     Total postings in thread:  46
> 
>     Number of different people posting:  14
> 
>     Apparent REJECT of proposal: 4
> 
>     Apparent ACCEPT of proposal: 5
> 
> 
> I would like to ask folks with an opinion about this proposal to post an 
> explicit note stating support or opposition.  Some of the existing posts were 
> about substantive issues in the proposal, but did not clearly indicate 
> support 
> or opposition.
> 
> Given that this issue goes to the core of a significant fraction of the 
> current specification's functionality and given that there is at least an 
> implied requirement for the functionality in the SSP requirements RFC, I'll 
> ask folks to do both a +1/-1 *and* to explain their reasons.
> 
> I also do not find a record in the archive of working group agreement to add 
> the features in question.  So an assumption that the features should be 
> retained unless there is a rough consensus *against* is problematic.  Citing 
> the SSP requirements RFC is comforting, but questionable, absent any history 
> of group discussion and clear rough consensus about the matter.
> 
> d/
> 
> -- 
> 

-1 . I would like to see us remove any text that implies a decision about what 
a receiver should do with that information, and maybe some text making it clear 
that a receiver may decide on a message by message basis to completely skip SSP 
processing for  for reasons of local policy or because they have sufficient 
information to make a decision without checking SSP (though it seems a little 
odd for an RFC to say that when you are not doing X you don't need to worry 
about how to properly do X). But I think there are a sufficient number of cases 
where domain owners may want to make statements not just about mail that is not 
signed, but about mail that is not signed by them.




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