MH Michael Hammer (5304) wrote:

> By what mechanism do you know that the 4 authors (from addresses)
> engaged someone from domain E?

By definition (in RFC 822).

> We currently have no way of knowing that across domains other
> than the fact that the person from domain E claims it.

Yes, but you only somebody you wish to hold responsible, and if
E signed it you have someone.  If nobody signed it, with E's SSP
saying "strict signer", you can reject it.

It's a semantical matter, do you want to protect senders (as the
name SSP suggests) or authors (in conflict with e-mail practice).
For the typical case one From, no Sender, there's no difference. 

> What about the cases where domain E has no reputation?

Same problem as a PASS "From: A" (no B, C, D, E).
 
> There is nothing that states that sender is authorized by the
> purported authors unless it is case #2

| originator  =   authentic                   ; authenticated addr
|                 [ "Reply-To"   ":" 1#address] )
|
| authentic   =   "From"       ":"   mailbox  ; Single author
|             / ( "Sender"     ":"   mailbox  ; Actual submittor
|                 "From"       ":" 1#mailbox) ; Multiple authors
|                                             ;  or not sender

You could ask Dave what "authenticated addr" for <authentic> was
supposed to mean back in 1982 ;-)  The sender is the "submittor"
of the mail - not necessarily to SMTP, the envelope sender can
be different in e.g. UUCP -> UUCP gateway SMTP -> SMTP scenarios.

 Frank

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