Dave Crocker wrote:
>
>
> Jim Fenton wrote:
>> Dave Crocker wrote:
>>> At best, the benefit of having s= defined now depends on whether 
>>> people are setting s=email now.  Are they?  Should they?  How will 
>>> they know?
>>
>> Are they:  I haven't seen a key with s=email yet, although I'll have 
>> to admit that I don't look at a lot of selectors.
>>
>> Should they:  They should as soon as they start using DKIM for 
>> services other than email, especially if they want to delegate keys 
>> to parties/agents not authorized to send email on their behalf.  But 
>> until someone defines use for DKIM in a service other than email, 
>> s=email is a tautology, so I don't think it's important to state.
>
> We seem to have a disconnect.  You said that s= needed to be in the 
> protocol now.  If it isn't used now, then what is the benefit of 
> having it in the protocol now?
>
> (I'm not arguing for a change in the specification, but am trying to 
> argue for having the Overview include no more discussion than a basic 
> regurgitation of the specification's statement of what the option is 
> for. On the other hand, making no mention of the option encourages 
> confusion, since it is part of the current specification and failing 
> to refer to it leads to obvious "what is this for?" questions.)

The benefit is in order to cause verifiers to check for s= if it is 
present.  This enable the potantial that DKIM could be used for other 
services.

>
>
>>> My point is that the Overview document seeks to describe s= in the 
>>> most limited way it can, while at least saying something meaningful.
>>>
>>> Deleting a discussion of s= seems inappropriate, as does having the 
>>> text say more, since it's a bit of an oddity and I doubt we (the 
>>> community) understand it very well.
>>
>> I'm puzzled that you want to include text on a mechanism that we (the 
>> community) don't understand well, because we're likely to get it 
>> wrong in that case.
>
> Because it is part of the specification.  Having the Overview fail to 
> refer to it does not remove it from the specification.

So the Overview must mention every mechanism in the specification?  It 
doesn't.

-Jim

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