> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-dkim-boun...@mipassoc.org [mailto:ietf-dkim-
> boun...@mipassoc.org] On Behalf Of Scott Kitterman
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 7:07 PM
> To: ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org
> Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again
> 
> On Thursday, May 26, 2011 03:21:19 PM Steve Atkins wrote:
> > If the reputation of the MLM is poor enough that mail from it is not
> being
> > delivered, trumping that with an authors reputation may get
> individual
> > emails delivered - but not threads, so it doesn't really improve the
> value
> > provided to the recipient (it probably decreases it - a mailing list
> that
> > delivers one in ten posts to my inbox is less useful than one that
> > delivers none at all).
> 
> I think this has it rather backwards.  If mail From (body From) a
> certain
> domain arrives 999 time with a valid DKIM signature and on the 1,000th
> time it
> arrives with either no signature or a broken one, then that's a
> negative
> anomaly in the mail stream that receivers are quite likely to take
> notice of.
> While ADSP is the public whipping boy for this, there are plenty of
> private
> efforts based on doing exactly this.
> 
> The question isn't do I trust the ML or not.  For domains with a non-
> trivial
> number of users the overall mail system will have no idea about what
ML
> should
> be trusted or not.  The question is how harshly do I treat this
message
> based
> on the lack of a good signature.
> 
> Scott K

The other piece of the equation is how often do I see abusive mail
purporting to be from this domain with no signature while mail from this
domain that is normally signed has no significant problems.

Mike

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